queen sacrifice...but not enough calculation

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This is a game i played a while ago with a friend.The most important move of the game was a queen sacrifice i made in the middlegame.The problem was that i didn't calculated it enough.If someone would have enough time,both me and my friend would be glad receiving tips about how our game should be improved.Hope you like it.

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Sorry if my english is bad:D

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So what happened after Na7?

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resignation

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yea you went wrong with Qa6 but you missed sumthin u played the wrong sac nc6+ instead of Qa6 would have lead to a quick win for example-

Very well played though even to reach such a position u owned him!
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You obviously dont sacrifice in a totally won position -- and that is what up to two pawns with a better position is -- unless you can see it leading to a quick and forced checkmate.  Its not that you didnt do "enough" calculation, its that you didnt see a forced checkmate.  That is what you need when you sac your queen in a won position.  Then you tripple check it.   

Generally speaking, a sacrifice that can simply be ignored is not a good move, and here he didnt have to take your queen.  So even if taking it did lead to checkmate, it still wouldnt be the best move. 

As noted, nc6 instead wins quickly.  Unlike the queen sac, it cant be ignored. 

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Who resigned? White?

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before you sac you imagine what your position will look like at it's best and at it's worst no calculation needed imagine what the mate you want looks like then see if the pieces required can join in THEN calculate 3 times all the variations including bad lines and then stand up say 'Got You!' and deliver!

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What on earth was the idea behind throwing the Queen away with Qa6? As most of the others have noticed, Nc6 provides a quick win. I feel that you handled the opening very well, especially the transition period (from the opening to the middlegame), though you could've been perhaps a touch more ambitious against what he played. On the whole, I think it is because your opponent had a rather unusual plan that didn't work out -castling Queenside, intending to attack the Kingside (the more common plan in the Spanish involves castling Kingside and going for Queenside counterplay) that you managed to gain a sizeable advantage and eventually a winning position (only to throw it all away with the inexplicable Qa6??). A pity.

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yes...i know...it was a terrible  game for me :(

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I agree with everybody, nc6 is the play but I want to defend guguloiul because I would have spent some time looking at that queen sacrifice.  My first thought was that it moves the b7 pawn to the a file, opening a King Rook fork with Nc6 followed by whites b5 pawn takes blacks a6 pawn and you might get the queen back with promotion.  Clearly after some analysis it doesn't work out that way but I can see the temptation.

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yea temptation exists even at the top level morphy too for all his modesty coudlnt resist playing to the crowd no one yet could. the game bird against morphy philidor defense morphy played a rook sac which wud actully have lost against perfect play but the good part was the shock bird recieved sacs can at times give a psychological advantage too.

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nothing wrong yes, but why not play to the crowd when you can?