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Hi all. So I have started analysing some of my old games (not played here) and started puzzles etc from books.

I am setting these up on the board and although it takes a little longer it seems to work better for me (I prefer OTB)

Now, when looking at variations etc it seems much easier to do that within Chessbase and although I could go through those OTB, it seems that would take forever.

So my question is, if I do a fair bit of analysis on screen, would this easily be translated to the board or am I likely to suffer in some way?

I see a lot of experts who play OTB seem to stay within the software during more lengthy analysis.

Any advice welcome.

Thanks
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You learn more effectively and efficiently in 3D, as opposed to 2D online boards and pieces.

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Yes that’s what I expected. So I suppose it pays to take the time to go through any changes, positions and variations in the software but take the time to copy to the board as well?
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itrenix wrote:
Yes that’s what I expected. So I suppose it pays to take the time to go through any changes, positions and variations in the software but take the time to copy to the board as well?

Think of it as anything else in life.  The things you work hard for are what are the most rewarding, and bring the most gain.  If its easy, youre not doing it right.

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Yes I agree. I just didn’t want to waste time if it wasn’t needed, and was especially interested in how others done it. I would hate to think I spend half an hour going through and adding variations and notes to my game, and then spend another half hour going through it all a second time on the board (times just examples) to then find out that most people just do most of it on the app/software as it translated to the board.

I feel a bit better knowing I am not the only one that uses both the software and puts the extra effort into also going through it all yet again OTB.

Thanks again :)
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itrenix wrote:
Yes I agree. I just didn’t want to waste time if it wasn’t needed, and was especially interested in how others done it. I would hate to think I spend half an hour going through and adding variations and notes to my game, and then spend another half hour going through it all a second time on the board (times just examples) to then find out that most people just do most of it on the app/software as it translated to the board.

I feel a bit better knowing I am not the only one that uses both the software and puts the extra effort into also going through it all yet again OTB.

Thanks again :)

Simply put.  You want to simulate OTB tournaments conditions as much as possible. 

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Got it. Thanks again.
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itrenix wrote:
Got it. Thanks again.

Glad to help.  If oyu really want to see what a difference it makes.  Do tactics online.  Give yourself 2-3 minutes to solve one.  If you cant solve a tactic within that time.  Set it up on a real board and pieces.  Then try to solve it.  You will be amazed at what a difference it makes.

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Yes I already noticed a difference with that. It was just when trying out lots of different variations in Chessbase. I really wasn’t sure if it was then worth going through each on over the board. Also wasn’t sure in what order and how much.

For example, a last game I played I analysed and ended up concentrating on 4 key positions where I ended up with a few variations. Adding these in the software and checking positions etc. Going back and forth and what not, this took some time.

I wasn’t sure if it’s best to do all this in one go, then start from the beginning and do it all again on the board etc.

I guess I will try out different ways to see what works, main thing being I will recreate it all over the board as well.

You have helped a lot thanks.
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Yes OTB is def the only way happy.png

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theendgame3 wrote:

I love OTB. I play a classic game OTB every day without fail.

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However, dont play OTB after 4 pints of stella! Just hung and lost a Rook!! sad.png

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Actually, I will blame my detached retina, not the alcohol!

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I can't concentrate on screen for too long, so longer time controls I can only play OTB. But I've played plenty of online games, got lots of game experience I otherwise would be lacking in (can't play well if I can't implement ideas).

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Same here but either way there is just something about OTB!

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I love OTB compared to online, but today's reality is online is more accessible.  So, when I do online puzzles, tactics, endgames, etc... I use chess.com, but then I also a few times a week do these on another site that doesn't penalize you for taking too much time on a puzzle, this allows me to set it up on the board and work through it without worrying about how much time I am taking.

For games, I play online 10/15, 30/15 etc but once a week, I play a friend 'online', we chat on skype, and I set up my board and only look at the screen to see his move or to make my move, other than that, I keep my focus on the board. I am hoping this keeps my OTB skills up.

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See that was my thoughts and that is why I dont play OTB (I play on another online service) as its not worth the time issues, however, although I am OK with 2D there is nothing like the real thing. I am really pushing myself with chess study and using my new ChessBase and thats what got me started with this. It seems when you watch the experts they are all using ChessBase and capturing the screen but where is the REAL board!!!! thats why I was worried I was wasting time doing something that was not required. I am now happy. Real board for play. Computer with DGT for game entry and analysis. Happy with that!

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Thats where you need the DGT smart board happy.png

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theendgame3 wrote:

OTB with 2 boards (going through classic games pre computers) 1 for variations- but get lost when the variations turn into branches !!!!!

 

2 boards!...so simple, never thought of that. Thanks!!