The fried liver attack is the best white opening ever
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Morphys-Revenge a écrit :
xzhi wrote:
I play the fried liver attack 100% of the time as white, hoping that my opponent will fall for it. It feels like one out of every 5 games is won easily using the fried liver attack. I will never switch openings again.
If that is true, you are playing what we call hope chess. Playing trappy openings hoping your opponent falls for the trap. There are many openings that fall into this category (The Englund gambit comes to mind), almost all of them have the same defect- stronger players already know all that stuff, and if your opponent does not fall for,the trap, you typically have no advantage- often even an inferior position.
I can very confidently tell you if you are going to keep playing only the fried liver attack, you may have a lot of fun in one out of every five games or so, but where your rating is now it wills always be.
I would encourage you to branch out and learn something new my friend
Your statement is not 100% right, black's blunder is before you play the knight sac, if you're opponent plays Nf6 on move 3 in the Italian and you play Ng5, you should win afterwards(pawn advantage, crushing attack with opponent's king on e6?!...), also for a human, it's much more easier to play this opening as white because black has only got one equal line, so by practicing it, making mistakes while playing it, you should always win with white by having fun in every game you play it.
chamo2074 wrote:
... if you're opponent plays Nf6 on move 3 in the Italian and you play Ng5, you should win afterwards ...
"... I recommend 3...Bc5 instead of 3...Nf6 to young players who have just started to learn chess openings. However, the Two Knights Defence is a sound opening, with many exciting lines, and it becomes a good choice once you have gained more experience in chess. …" - GM John Emms (2018)
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/testing-the-fried-liver
Mar 10, 2020
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#65
chamo2074 wrote:
Morphys-Revenge a écrit :
xzhi wrote:
I play the fried liver attack 100% of the time as white, hoping that my opponent will fall for it. It feels like one out of every 5 games is won easily using the fried liver attack. I will never switch openings again.
If that is true, you are playing what we call hope chess. Playing trappy openings hoping your opponent falls for the trap. There are many openings that fall into this category (The Englund gambit comes to mind), almost all of them have the same defect- stronger players already know all that stuff, and if your opponent does not fall for,the trap, you typically have no advantage- often even an inferior position.
I can very confidently tell you if you are going to keep playing only the fried liver attack, you may have a lot of fun in one out of every five games or so, but where your rating is now it wills always be.
I would encourage you to branch out and learn something new my friend
Your statement is not 100% right, black's blunder is before you play the knight sac, if you're opponent plays Nf6 on move 3 in the Italian and you play Ng5, you should win afterwards(pawn advantage, crushing attack with opponent's king on e6?!...), also for a human, it's much more easier to play this opening as white because black has only got one equal line, so by practicing it, making mistakes while playing it, you should always win with white by having fun in every game you play it.
I wasn't referring to any particular move order or sequence, I was referring to the philosophy of playing cheap trappy openings. And I completely disagree with your assertion that Ng5 wins. It may against patzers, but not serious players who consider that whole line a joke.
As I understand it, White has been playing respectable moves and has a reasonable position after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5.
Mar 11, 2020
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#67
After 5...Nxd5, what are good alternatives to the fried liver attack (6.Nxf7), if one would want to avoid the complications of that line?
DjVortex έγραψε:
After 5...Nxd5, what are good alternatives to the fried liver attack (6.Nxf7), if one would want to avoid the complications of that line?
6.d4 is equally good, or better.
Mar 11, 2020
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kindaspongey wrote:
As I understand it, White has been playing respectable moves and has a reasonable position after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5.
5. ____b5
Morphys-Revenge έγραψε:
kindaspongey wrote:
As I understand it, White has been playing respectable moves and has a reasonable position after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5.
5. ____b5
6.Bf1 and Black is short of equality.
Hi
e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Nf6 Ng5 d5 exd5 Na5 is the main line
Mar 11, 2020
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#75
Well, in the end, Could we say that the Fried Liver attack is sound ? If black doesn't know the right sequence of play that's an easy win for white. And, even If black knows how to deal with it, white should not end up in a bad position anyway. There is nothing wrong with playing it, it ensures plenty of easy victories against beginners (maybe sometimes intermediate players?).
You can try this counter gambit against the fried liver attack.
Orange_Adi wrote:
[1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 Bc5 5 Nxf7] ...
You can try this counter gambit against the fried liver attack.
Sooner or later, one is likely to encounter 5 Bxf7+. If I remember correctly, IM pfren suggested 5 d4.
Shewas34 wrote:
Well, in the end, Could we say that the Fried Liver attack is sound ? If black doesn't know the right sequence of play that's an easy win for white. And, even If black knows how to deal with it, white should not end up in a bad position anyway. There is nothing wrong with playing it, it ensures plenty of easy victories against beginners (maybe sometimes intermediate players?).
As one progresses, one will probably encounter (with increasing frequency):
and
I would guess that at least some improvement would be possible while regularly going for 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5 as White. Within those few moves, there is already a lot of scope for Black to go off-script and provide White with learning experiences. (Indeed, if I remember correctly, this is more or less what Moret advocated in his introductory White repertoire book.
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9033.pdf
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/vincent-moret/ )
However, branching-out is a good idea to be undertaken sooner or later.
1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 Bc5 5 Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6 Kf1! is better for white i think.
Mar 11, 2020
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#80
kindaspongey wrote:
Shewas34 wrote:
Well, in the end, Could we say that the Fried Liver attack is sound ? If black doesn't know the right sequence of play that's an easy win for white. And, even If black knows how to deal with it, white should not end up in a bad position anyway. There is nothing wrong with playing it, it ensures plenty of easy victories against beginners (maybe sometimes intermediate players?).
As one progresses, one will probably encounter (with increasing frequency):
and
I would guess that at least some improvement would be possible while going for 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5 as White. Within those few moves, there is already a lot of scope for Black to go off-script and provide White with learning experiences. (Indeed, if I remember correctly, this is more or less what Moret advocated in his introductory White repertoire book.)
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9033.pdf
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/vincent-moret/
However, branching-out is a good idea to be undertaken sooner or later.
Sure, black has answers, but even When black knows what to do, white's position remains OK. Anyway, it does not hurt to Try the Fried Liver, that's an easy win or a rather equal game
(Just helping myself to see what you are talking about.)