Very sac fulled game

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Ok right off the bat I'm gonna say I'm not a GM I'm sure there is probably some holes in my attack, but I was not up against Kasparov I was up against a player like me. I just think this game was very beautifully played.

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good game

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I like your aggressive, sacrificing style and thought the first 25 moves or so were quite good, but 25...Rf8 allows 26.Rxf8+, Nd8 27.Rxd8#

Very enjoyable game up until that point however!

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Chessteacher007 wrote:

That was quite a game!  25 ...  Rf8 is sound, because the white rook is pinned by the bishop.

I admire the art of the sacrifice.


actually it is not sound if queen takes bishop that wins for white

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Nice sacrifices! Terrible blunder at the end for white. He must have been in time trouble and didn't have a second to think about that.

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All sacrifices are sound according to mikhail Tal. The only unsound ones are his. Amazing play even though there are small flaws. I always consider myself attacking, but after seeing this game I guess I am too passive. Nice aggression indeed!
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duskrevival wrote:
All sacrifices are sound according to mikhail Tal. The only unsound ones are his. Amazing play even though there are small flaws. I always consider myself attacking, but after seeing this game I guess I am too passive. Nice aggression indeed!

this is not the sort of 'style' you should wish to emulate... most of these sacs were grossly unsound and if white had any concept of "King safety" he would have been able to hold on.

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Blackadder wrote:
duskrevival wrote:
All sacrifices are sound according to mikhail Tal. The only unsound ones are his. Amazing play even though there are small flaws. I always consider myself attacking, but after seeing this game I guess I am too passive. Nice aggression indeed!

this is not the sort of 'style' you should wish to emulate... most of these sacs were grossly unsound and if white had any concept of "King safety" he would have been able to hold on.

 


 

I looked the game over a bit myself after the fact, and found a lot of the same errors you did. However you must keep in mind that this was not a game where each side had several minutes per move. This was a game where each side had only a few minutes for all of the moves.

It is real easy to find a move like 26. Qxd4! when you have 30 minutes on your clock. It is not that easy when you only have a minute and a half left on your clock and your opponent has about 4 minutes and you are racing to make your moves in fear of losing on time.

Again a move like 31. Nfd1 seemse obvious when you have minutes to analyaze the board, it seems much less obvious when you only have 30 seconds left for all of your moves.

When you do things like I did in this game it is a gamble. You are basically telling your opponent I'm gonna make you think carefully about your moves and waste time. Or you might fall on this slippery slope I have lined up for you. Sure there might be a safe set of stairs they can walk up to punch me in the nose, but a lot of people are gonna need to waste that clock to do it leaving me with a time advantage.

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Very sac fulled. I concure.

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Frankdawg wrote:
Blackadder wrote:
duskrevival wrote:
All sacrifices are sound according to mikhail Tal. The only unsound ones are his. Amazing play even though there are small flaws. I always consider myself attacking, but after seeing this game I guess I am too passive. Nice aggression indeed!

this is not the sort of 'style' you should wish to emulate... most of these sacs were grossly unsound and if white had any concept of "King safety" he would have been able to hold on.

 


 

I looked the game over a bit myself after the fact, and found a lot of the same errors you did. However you must keep in mind that this was not a game where each side had several minutes per move. This was a game where each side had only a few minutes for all of the moves.

It is real easy to find a move like 26. Qxd4! when you have 30 minutes on your clock. It is not that easy when you only have a minute and a half left on your clock and your opponent has about 4 minutes and you are racing to make your moves in fear of losing on time.

Again a move like 31. Nfd1 seemse obvious when you have minutes to analyaze the board, it seems much less obvious when you only have 30 seconds left for all of your moves.

When you do things like I did in this game it is a gamble. You are basically telling your opponent I'm gonna make you think carefully about your moves and waste time. Or you might fall on this slippery slope I have lined up for you. Sure there might be a safe set of stairs they can walk up to punch me in the nose, but a lot of people are gonna need to waste that clock to do it leaving me with a time advantage.


regarding the last paragraph:  The point I was really trying to make is that your sac's were so bad (well, most of them) that the defence of this game should require almost no thought at all!  The initial sacrifice, for example, offered you no real attacking chances...having a piece for two pawns in the opening is generally FAR better for the side with the peice, so you cannot justify this sac by saying "and now i'm only a pawn down".

and secoundly, If I knew this was a blitz game I wouldnt have bothered to analyze it, mostly because its a waste of time and partially because players always use the short time control as an excuse for making bad moves.  (If the game is full of bad moves, AND YOU KNOW THEY ARE BAD, then why post the game in the analysis forum? ---if you wanted idle praise then 'game showcase' is the forum for you.)

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I think the game was interesting. Thanks for sharing. My first impression was that Bh3 would have saved the day, but that g pawn would have advanced, followed by the night. Nf1 was the only hope. I looked a the position for 10 seconds and did not see that, since I already assumed Bh3 was good enough.

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AlucardII wrote:

I like your aggressive, sacrificing style and thought the first 25 moves or so were quite good, but 25...Rf8 allows 26.Rxf8+, Nd8 27.Rxd8#

Very enjoyable game up until that point however!


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thunker wrote:
AlucardII wrote:

I like your aggressive, sacrificing style and thought the first 25 moves or so were quite good, but 25...Rf8 allows 26.Rxf8+, Nd8 27.Rxd8#

Very enjoyable game up until that point however!



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I wouldn't normally play like that, but like I said the time controls were pretty low so when faced with some kind of sac often times you can get your opponent into either time trouble or make a bad move.

Think of the clock in chess like the blinds in heads up poker where both players start with the same amount of chips. If the blinds are a tenth of your chip stack you can be very aggressive going all in time after time and winning off just that kind of agression. However if the blinds are a hundreth of your chip stack that type of agression is a bad idea and will likely end up with you going all in vs a stronger hand.

Same is true for chess. If you have 30 minutes for all your moves you can take your time and analyze fairly accurately how to play the postion. However if you only have 3 minutes for all your moves then you can get away with an agressive style like I played a lot of times. The lower the clock the more agressive you should play.

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i will agree with those who said that most of the sacrifices were unsound f3 was a really gross blunder on your opponents part because it extends your bishops scope prevents defensive moves like Be3 and just weakens his kingside