@jetfighter13
Don't be surprised by white's second move, its highly typical of players unfamiliar with the sicilian.
We need more amateurs to post their annotated games.
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GIex wrote:
Thomas_Vandeputte wrote:
You understood me wrong, this is what I meant
'White had worse development, worse space control, weaker pawn structure, had posed no threats to Black so far, and, quite the contrary, Black was preparing an attack on his kingside.' (quoting you) So according to you white is worse in the 'four important things in the opening' , but the position is still equal ? (isn't that a contradiction?)
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Also, this is move 13, not move 4 or 5 or something..
Does this have any relevance whatsoever to the position's evaluation?
Yes. As i pointed out. 'In this position, definately because of the very unusual opening, the engine output is pure mathematics.' So it's not a position the computer is familiar with, so the output is just mathematics. (If he was familiar with the opening, the output can be based on databases of played games.) The beginning of the opening (that's why I said 4 or 5 or something) is played more often, so can be based on game databases. The position at move 13 not.
Also, could you give an example of an opening line where White gets not more than +0,10 advantage? Or an opening that's "immediately better for Black"?
Examples of openings in which white doesn't get a big advantage and are not spoiled: QGD (max +0.10), Semi slav (max +0.06), Vienna Game, Ruy Lopez (+0.14), Italian game(0.00),...
An opening in which black is better according the computer: e.g. Bird's opening.
And I checked the initial position before, and white was better all the time, at a point even +0.65 or something (see one of the comments above).
Sorry, I can't comprehend much of the upper, neither semantically nor syntactically. Neither I think it has something to do with the, I hope, clear and straightforward questions I asked you in my last post.
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learnateverygame wrote:
well I think that engine's are useful until some point, it reaches the tip where it stops being useful, and you won't develop. As one famous IM said, "Chess is a game full of human spirit and emotion" , with you talking white have slight lead (+0,2 to 0,6), for me, it doesn't mean anything, if you DID NOT know how to see the imbalances, and made correct plans.
As we amateurs do not really play like masters, all of us had a lot to learn, and instead of typing away on things like this, why not you also contribute to this thread, and keep posting games you played, win or lost.
If I am not right, please, correct me.
Thank you.
That's right - both about computer evaluation and about the purpose of this topic. However, as there are different opinions, there will inevitably be disagreement, be it fewer or larger, about posted games. I also believe it will be beneficial to comment on chess instead, but I also believe that we shouldn't neglect other people's opinions that differ from our own ones, especially if the person who expressed them is certain about their truthfulness and determined to refute our own perception. Let's give everyone a chance to explain his own point of view, be it truthful or not.
So, let's discuss a position from a game that has been posted here, I believe it will be better for everyone:
What do you think of this position, what is your assessment of each side's strengths, weaknesses, chances and possible game plans, and what is your overall evaluation of this position and estimation of the game outcome?
Here's what I think: this position is equal. White has a weaker pawn strucutre, and his kingside is under attack by Black that he has to have in mind. On the other hand, White has no obvious middlegame plan, because of the lack of pawn structure or other positional weaknesses in Black's lineup to exploit, and the lack of space, important lines' and squares' control, development, material, king safety or whatsoever other advantage that White should have seeked to, but failed to, create in the opening. That's why I think this position is equal, I believe White could have played more actively in the opening to avoid that, and I think Black should be content with doing so well so early in the game, with the black pieces, against an opponent that is over 700 rating points higer than him.
Please, if you don't think so, be so gentle to share your opinion so that I will no longer be misguided. If you, on the other hand, agree with me, please also say that so I won't unnecessarily wonder what's so not obvious in this position to elude me.
I didn't see that comment till now. I agree!
31 e8=N+? Kb8??
31 .. Rxe8, 32 Nxe8 Rxe8 and black is winning (being up in material and your king is in the center of the board)
i am white.
i know. 'me (1260) vs. friend (1230)' says you were white
yea i noticed that and I was really hoping he wouldn take but it was my last chance to finish the game in my favour and I had to try it.
I got a big advantage in the middlegame,but I lost like a moron in the endgame.
@ gugu : you are definitely winning that middlegame, RIGHT until the sac the Q and all of your big pieces and ending in endgame you still win.
but thats chess, you cant predict, when the opponent will fight back, and when they do, they put up a lot of fight. Because I've been in same position but as white lol.
@2727soccer
I loved your annotations! Basically what runs through my head during my games too (Ka-chow! Preparing for blood bath. Blood bath averted, etc etc haha)
sometimes getting as far into the game as you can actually helps as long as you dont start bawling because he took your "brother" or your pawn not that i know from experience or anything....
guguloiul wrote:
I got a big advantage in the middlegame,but I lost like a moron in the endgame.
I think you could have played a different variation from move 15, beginning with 15...Bxd3:
The idea is to get a passed d pawn, exchange White's active rook and open the b8-h2 diagonal. Then you can base your strategy on your passed d pawn, e file control, center control, and on White's weak king position. You should have been able to bring your rooks at the center before White would have developed, then you should have had an easy game.
Anyway, at move 15 you already had a better position than White, and the variation you played in the game was also good. You should have won 
I'm having a good day today xp
Comments and help are very appreciated
This position just occured in a game of mine. Can you spot the winning move?
Jan 30, 2012
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Thomas_Vandeputte wrote:
This position just occured in a game of mine. Can you spot the winning move?
Bb5+ wins the queen.
this game is a good example of someone castling into an attack, it was played at 10|0 blitz and the ratings are chess.com blitz ratings
A game I played against my dad. One of the first after he joined the site. This is only the 2nd game Ive ever annotated and the first post I have ever put up on this site
I agree, could've been a draw, black would have been able to get in the corner
I never thought that my games is used so many times, I feel honored ;)
Put another game in, just yesterday :
well do not ask me why I draw the game, I RAN OUT OF TIME, SO THE COM SAYS IT IS DRAWN. C&F are appreciated!
Looks like a good game :-) Black seemed very passive though. I'm not sure about your move 8.D4 because it seems to be a little awkward after maybe NC6? taking advantage of the pin. Looks like it could be annoying, but black really doesn't do very much all game...
On move 28. you say you were thinking of swapping the rook for a knight and pawn yes? I think you were wise not to, I dont see your follow up after that. None of your pieces can be easily brought into the game. Good call I think!
THe game looks drawish untill move 37. RD8 Is black under time pressure? Could they have slipped ? This move seems mad, why not stick it on the open file? Surly after RE8 it would just be a slight uneventfull draw?
yes I am glad that I didn't sac the rook for the knight, and instead, trying to get the Qs off the board, so I can kill the d5 pawn, because after h4 and g5, I win that pawn immidiately :)
if Re8, after Rxe8+ Kxe8, then h4 or g5, should win immidiately :D