I'd take with the knight on f3 for a little more healthy development.
Perhaps continue with bishop to c4, castle with pressure on f7.
Or perhaps quick queenside castling for interesting dynamics.
What's the correct opening line?
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Yes I agree. probably taking with the knight would have been better.
I also thought that d5 was a bad move. Perhaps Be3 and 0-0-0?
2. d4 is a mistake
skotheim2 wrote:
2. d4 is a mistake
No it's not! It's a popular and very interesting gambit!
2. d4 is playable. The mistake is 5. Qxf3 which allows Qxd4 although black didn't play that (Nxf3 is much better). 7. d5 is again a bad move, you should develop rapidly when you play a gambit, that's why you sacrifice the pawn in the first place. (10. dxe6 is again a bad move, but black has clear advantage anyway.)
2.exd5 advantage white.
Leave the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit to players who believe they are like Tal.
Than when they come up short and lose. They will realize they are not Tal and will start playing better chess.
There was 2 mistakes here in this game at move 2.
The move 2.d4 was a mistake
and
Your logic of Gambiting against the Scandinavian Defense is a mistake? Change your mind set.
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
2.exd5 advantage white.
Leave the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit to players who believe they are like Tal.
Than when they come up short and lose. They will realize they are not Tal and will start playing better chess.
There was 2 mistakes here in this game at move 2.
The move 2.d4 was a mistake
and
Your logic of Gambiting against the Scandinavian Defense is a mistake? Change your mind set.
I DO NOT PLAY THE BLACKMAR GAMBIT.
But it is a common gambit line and can't be a mistake.
aman_makhija wrote:
I DO NOT PLAY THE BLACKMAR GAMBIT.
But it is a common gambit line and can't be a mistake.
I am sorry I thought you was playing with the White pieces.
If you was playing with the white pieces than the following comment would apply to you.
There was 2 mistakes here in this game at move 2.
The move 2.d4 was a mistake
and
Your logic of Gambiting against the Scandinavian Defense is a mistake? Change your mind set.
If you was playing with the Black pieces.
Than your mistake was not at move 2. Your mistake was at move 1...d5.
I have recommendation for you.
To help you fix this mistake you have 4 good possible moves here.
1...e5 Kings Pawn Game
1...e6 French Defense
1...c6 Caro-Kann
1...c5 Sicilian Defense
Since you play the Scandinavian Defense. I think a line which is very similar to that one is 1...c6 Caro-Kann maybe you should give this one a try. I hope that helps you.
My first thought is that it seems you are not developing enough before attacking. The idea behind most gambit is to get ahead in development by it.
Also Bb5 put you in a position where he gets away and forces you to exchange, soon nullifying your advantage in development.
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
2.exd5 advantage white.
I always seem to do well playing this. If he retakes with his Q then you attack the Q with your N, and if he checks you block with your B, and then you advance your centre pawn - you then have two pieces developed & pawn in the centre, while he's shuffling his queen around.
You transposed into the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit. I typically play it from 1.d4, but I know some people that like to save it as a surprise weapon against the Scandinavian. You played the Ryder Gambit, which is perhaps the most unsound variation of the BDG. I'll put some common lines (and traps) below:
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
aman_makhija wrote:
I DO NOT PLAY THE BLACKMAR GAMBIT.
But it is a common gambit line and can't be a mistake.
I am sorry I thought you was playing with the White pieces.
If you was playing with the white pieces than the following comment would apply to you.
There was 2 mistakes here in this game at move 2.
The move 2.d4 was a mistake
and
Your logic of Gambiting against the Scandinavian Defense is a mistake? Change your mind set.
If you was playing with the Black pieces.
Than your mistake was not at move 2. Your mistake was at move 1...d5.
I have recommendation for you.
To help you fix this mistake you have 4 good possible moves here.
1...e5 Kings Pawn Game
1...e6 French Defense
1...c6 Caro-Kann
1...c5 Sicilian Defense
Since you play the Scandinavian Defense. I think a line which is very similar to that one is 1...c6 Caro-Kann maybe you should give this one a try. I hope that helps you.
I am sorry but I didn't build this thread to ask for an advisable opening line.
My question is: Suppose the blackmar gambit comes up.
THEN what was the mistake. I'm sure there is a better way to play even this unwise gambit in a better way as white?
aman_makhija wrote:
I am sorry but I didn't build this thread to ask for an advisable opening line.
My question is: Suppose the blackmar gambit comes up.
THEN what was the mistake. I'm sure there is a better way to play even this unwise gambit in a better way as white?
In response to your red text:
Your Original post asked for mistakes. I gave you the mistakes.
In response to your blue text:
If you wish to ignore the mistake by black at move 1...d5
and
If you wish to ignore the mistake by white at move 2.d4
Than the next mistake happened at move 5 by white.
5.Qxf3 is bad.
Better move is 5.Nxf3.
However, the move 5.Nxf3 is still slightly better for black.
In the game your opponent played 5.Qxf3 black is just better after that move.
In response to your green text:
Yes white can do the move 5 better. However, it still slightly better for black. White should just avoid playing this gambit. White loses a pawn for nothing. There is not alot of compensation for this loss.
People who play the (BDG) have a personal vendetta against there pawns. It makes no sense for them to have a vendetta against there pawns. Maybe they should play checkers so they don't have to deal with pawns.
Take a look!
http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=1155885133
Please explain where white went wrong!