Won against Noam (1099)?!

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WhoCaresCC

Not so much really about an analysis of the game (I'm on a free account and used my one daily detailed analysis on an earlier game), but I just played a round against the computer opponent Noam, who is listed with a rating of 2200.

Except, now in the game analysis it's listed as Noam (1099) vs WhoCaresCC (2200) -  yeah, you guessed it right, 1099 is my current rating from my 6 games against real players.

So did I score my first victory against a 2200 rated Noam, or is there a bug in the engine which made me play against a 1099 rated Noam?!

Not accurate at the end, when I got my moves out of order - the variant is closer to the real end, but the game was already decided at that point anyway...

So it's not really about me and my game, but did Noam play up to his 2200 standards, or did I drag him down on my level?!

(and I understand that a 2200 rated Noam is not the same as if I played a 2200 Chess.com rated real player)

WhoCaresCC

Yes, I understand that, but I want to know whether I cracked a 3 digit or a 5 digit lock wink.png

Or more like a 5 digit lock with 2 digit already stuck on the right number.

elisey_2010

:)

Itsameea

"(and I understand that a 2200 rated Noam is not the same as if I played a 2200 Chess.com rated real player)" 

You could challenge one and find out first hand ha ha.

Have to say I do not play bots but wow this is a 2200 on here? I would say with the way it played more like a 1400 so still though by figuring it out I mean beating it ha ha you did well.

WhoCaresCC

And make the real player drop 100 points, nah, that would be rude wink.png

But the second part is the point of my question, I already played a fair number of games against Noam - I sometimes managed to get ahead, but eventually fumbled in middle or endgame. But here it was actually a fairly straight natural game for me with very few challenges by the opponent. Especially toward and after the point where I turned my 2-to-3 queenside pawn minority into 2 passed pawns.

That's why I wonder whether there might be a bug in the engine making the bot play at my level.

fenrissaga

first great game congrats .

I must confess i think these bots play nuts sometimes ,i got this 

 

he's ranked 2000 and this game is complete nonsense he gives all his pieces away

VantablackChess

I think I have an explanation, why the bots play worse, than they should.


Sometimes I play against bots like Antonio (rating 1500). On my Asus notebook, he plays quite decent. But not as strong, as a human player with this rating. Recently, I played against him on my Honor 8x Smartphone. I noticed, that he played really dumb. For example he randomly traded a Bishop for a Pawn.


I assume, that the performance of the bots depends on the efficiency of the device you are using. The bots always play a move after like 1-2 seconds. If you play on a slow device, they just don't have enough time to find a better move. Maybe the Noam bot plays that weakly, because your device is not very fast (no offense).


Can anyone confirm, if this assumption is correct? The moves of the bots could also be calculated in the cloud. This would make their strength independent of your device. But I am not sure, if this is correct.

WhoCaresCC

Now I also had this suspicion about the performance of the system it's running on, except that my idea goes in the direction of bad performance while playing on PC via browser. Because the very same happened when I defeated Li (2000).

Regarding the performance of my PC, while it's ~3 years old, I still play(/ed) Elite Dangerous and MSFS2020 in 4K, and Cyberpunk 2077 I only had to dial down a little.

While on the mobile app on my ~1 month old smart phone, that's where they keep defeating me.

DiscipleOfKeres

The bots are not really meant to train. If we are to compare the bots to the Magnus app, the bots make a ton of errors where Magnus app feels like you are playing against stockfish. It is for entertainment value, and to retain players. When you are starting out, it is hard to lose and keep going. If you win against a "2000" rated player, that gives you a lot of confidence and keeps you playing on the site. I think it is pretty clever, as it tackles the problem of how hard it is to lose in the beginning.

Night-Rider_chess8987
 

happens to me when I play against a 3200, and mate the bot using the analyzed tactic. however, it may say I am playing myself, as a 3200