Finally Remembered how to Counter The Fried Liver

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masterius77

I know others probably have seen this before but this is the first time I was able to do this and remember in game. It's a pretty nice sequence against the Fried Liver attack. I played this game on Lichess earlier today.

sawdof
masterius77 wrote:

... It's a pretty nice sequence against the Fried Liver attack ...

 

This is not the fried liver attack.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/fried-liver-attack-chess-opening

masterius77

Then what is it.. just 4 knights defense? I thought it was the setup for the fried liver, except I didn't take his pawn with my knight.

sawdof
masterius77 wrote:

Then what is it.. just 4 knights defense? I thought it was the setup for the fried liver, except I didn't take his pawn with my knight.

https://www.365chess.com/eco/C57_two_knights_defence_Fritz_variation

masterius77

Ah thanks for the clarification.

The_Blue_J
masterius77 wrote:

I know others probably have seen this before but this is the first time I was able to do this and remember in game. It's a pretty nice sequence against the Fried Liver attack. I played this game on Lichess earlier today.

 

And unfortunately, I can counter this..

masterius77

I'm sure there's many ways to counter.. but in your scenario I'd leave the knight where it is and go pawn to b5.. I'd rather trade than have someone be able to fork my queen and rook.

The_Blue_J
masterius77 wrote:

I'm sure there's many ways to counter.. but in your scenario I'd leave the knight where it is and go pawn to b5.. I'd rather trade than have someone be able to fork my queen and rook.

And then I win the pawn, even the engine shows 0.9

masterius77

I'm no expert but can't you just take the other pawn to gain it back with the knight on f6?

Mazetoskylo
masterius77 wrote:

Then what is it.. just 4 knights defense? I thought it was the setup for the fried liver, except I didn't take his pawn with my knight.

Two Knights defence, Fritz variation.

5...Nd4 gives white the advantage with correct play- 6.c3 b5 7.Bf1! (the only move which works).

Better is either 5...Na5 or 5...b5.

Stockfishdot1

Yep, that's the method that Yuri S(?) teaches. It feels kind of unnerving doing it in a game, but it's cool when it works.

I like to threaten that I could do a Fried Liver Knight Attack, while maneuvering other pieces so I line up other threats, if I can.

masterius77

Okay, so I played this variation of the same thing, again on lichess. I guess at my level which is 1367 over there people love the Italian game. This one is the variation where the opponent takes my pawn with his bishop instead of forking the queen and rook. I really like these lines though, it's kind of a risk and reward type of thing. Enjoyable to either smother mate or threaten taking the queen early.