I am white, playing on another site.
Qc2 Nf3 is powerful, and often slightly surprising to the Nimzo player
How to crush the Nimzo!
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Not as good as the first game, but it shows what to do if black replies with f5 after the usual stuff.
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do you guys agree that nimzo is a horrible opening??
Lets examine the evidence:
"is the Nimzo a horrible opening?
1. This hypermodern opening was developed by Grandmaster Aron Nimzowitsch, one of the best players in the world.
2. The Nimzo-Indian is a highly respected defence to 1.d4, is played at all levels and has been played by every world champion since Capablanca.
Now lets look at the other side:
1. An online bullet player that has lost more games than they won, proclaims the nimzo is a horrible opening, and is crushed.
Im going with one of the best players in the world, and every world champion since Capa. Maybe its just me...
5...c5 and 5...b5 are more usual responces. If Black wants to play ...b6, he might well play it at move four.
May 25, 2016
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This reminds me of the 789,123,456,789 other threads on "[Insert random opening] refuted!!!!"
kingofshedinjas wrote:
This reminds me of the 789,123,456,789 other threads on "[Insert random opening] refuted!!!!"
<AHem> I believe its 670,975,221,098,370
May 25, 2016
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Diakonia escribió:
kingofshedinjas wrote:
This reminds me of the 789,123,456,789 other threads on "[Insert random opening] refuted!!!!"
<AHem> I believe its 670,975,221,098,370
Some of them were deleted.
kingofshedinjas wrote:
Diakonia escribió:
kingofshedinjas wrote:
This reminds me of the 789,123,456,789 other threads on "[Insert random opening] refuted!!!!"
<AHem> I believe its 670,975,221,098,370
Some of them were deleted.
Thats right...by bad <over bite>
while I doubt you've refuted the nitzmo- you
have shown so great examples for white on how to play with Nf3 Qc2 & Be4. Ty
Chess_Impress wrote:
Anand tried to crush Carlsen's Nimzo, but he did not succeed. But what a game it was!
https://youtu.be/sjOZBfseLPo
Black was dead lost in that game.
Wow. There are some YouTube lectures titled "Crush this opening", even though the opening in question is fully sound. I agree that 4. Qc2 O-O 5. Nf3 is promising, but what do you do against 4... d5?
chesster3145 wrote:
Wow. There are some YouTube lectures titled "Crush this opening", even though the opening in question is fully sound. I agree that 4. Qc2 O-O 5. Nf3 is promising, but what do you do against 4... d5?
Whenever you see a opening videos, books, software, etc. and it contains any of the following: "Crush", "Defeat", "How to Win", "How to Beat the...", "The Best...", "Mastering", "Ferocious", "Beating". It will usually be crap.
@Lucia243:
Agreed!
They just made one about gambits. How much worse can it get?
It's about time people learned that chess and sales pitches don't mix.
You can't make an opening good just by saying that it is.
A move is either good or it isn't.
Lucia243 wrote:
I might be mistaken but why does the opponent play b6? Isn't the main line c5? I don't know much about the Nimzo but b6 allows e4 and Bd3 and also to kick away the knight who serves as defender of the King with e5
4...0-0 5.Nf3 c5 6.dxc5 Na6 7.g3 leaves white with some chances of an opening advantage, and the same goes for the Hedgehog setups after 6...Bxc5. Black's soundest and most theoretical reply is 5...d5.
Black can play ...b6 one move earlier: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Qc2 b6! is probably white's main concern currently in the 4.Qc2 variation.
After 4.. b6 I would play e4. And if you play d5, the same as in this variation.
However, 5.. c5 is much more interesting
Varo2001 wrote:
youre opponent played 4.b6 , i think best move in 4.Qc2 is 4.d6, this move give black side more chances :)
Both 4...d6 and 4...b6 are interesting moves.
GM Gustafsson in his Qc2 Nimzo videos considers the continuation at #23 rather harmless because of 6...Qe7, with nthe idea of ...exd5, when white has to spoil his ideal pawn structure and take back at d5 with the e-pawn. In practice, Black has faced a few quick disasters after greedily going for a ...Ba6- Bxc4 plan, which allows white a very dangerous initiative- but if Black plays sane chess, the game is more or less equal.