I beat Fake Drdrunkenstein :)

drmrboss
AlanTheron wrote:

I've been surprised with how many untitled players seem to have very high online chess ratings. I assumed someone with a 2500 bullet rating on Lichess would at least be a National Master in real life.

Yes, average 2500 bullet on L site is 2300 FIDE. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GcVG_slcTUJfi0sQMeaxes_jwYFBrfWaR1ejSSOH-SM/edit#gid=0

 

 

llamonade2
AlanTheron wrote:

I've been surprised with how many untitled players seem to have very high online chess ratings. I assumed someone with a 2500 bullet rating on Lichess would at least be a National Master in real life.

Meh, sort of.

You can pump up your speed rating way above your OTB peers. Meaning an 1800 player may be able to outclass FMs in bullet... but only in bullet. They're what I call a bullet (or blitz) specialist. If someone plays 100s of blitz/bullet games every month they may be one of these specialists.

Some people play both... lots of OTB and serious study AND lots of speed games.

A person can definitely be good at both... but don't be fooled. A 2500 lichess bullet rating doesn't mean someone is as good as an FM in "real" chess.

drmrboss
llamonade2 wrote:
AlanTheron wrote:

I've been surprised with how many untitled players seem to have very high online chess ratings. I assumed someone with a 2500 bullet rating on Lichess would at least be a National Master in real life.

Meh, sort of.

You can pump up your speed rating way above your OTB peers. Meaning an 1800 player may be able to outclass FMs in bullet... but only in bullet. They're what I call a bullet (or blitz) specialist. If someone plays 100s of blitz/bullet games every month they may be one of these specialists.

Some people play both... lots of OTB and serious study AND lots of speed games.

A person can definitely be good at both... but don't be fooled. A 2500 lichess bullet rating doesn't mean someone is as good as an FM in "real" chess.

Statistics tell the truth ( assuming we have enough sample).

Most (2300) FM players have bullet rating around 2200 to 2800 , that is why their average bullet is 2500. 

 

The difference is that you can get 2500 bullet by sitting on your basement and play in your leisure hours. But to get 2300 FM, you need to pay tournment fees, spend time for several weeks/months for FIDE rated tournments , accommodation fees etc. happy.png

 

 

llamonade2

It's not only a difference in money, it's a difference in knowledge too. Practical play boots speed ratings more than technical knowledge. FMs have (a relatively large amount) of technical knowledge.

As for speed play, most sub 2000 FIDE players don't realize practical play is important OTB, it is, but technical knowledge players a greater role at slower time controls.

If you only play speed chess your technique will be deficient.

llamonade2

And even though I say FMs have a lot of technical knowledge, they're practically idiots compared to the best players.

I like to say that super GMs are like living libraries of chess. They carry more knowledge in their heads than players can fathom. Hell, you'd probably have to be rated at least 2600 to properly appreciate them.

MangoMankey
69AlphaMale109 wrote:
AlanTheron wrote:

I've been surprised with how many untitled players seem to have very high online chess ratings. I assumed someone with a 2500 bullet rating on Lichess would at least be a National Master in real life.

Some of the strongest players in the world don't play chess in real life.  It's very different to sit down to a blitz or rapid game online,  quite another to free your schedule for a whole day online to play in a rated OTB event.   You do know that there are many amateurs that are highly competitive with the strongest grandmasters and sometimes better, right?  

Can you please name one amateur who is stronger than any 2600+ GM?

drmrboss

69AlphaMale109 wrote:

 if none of those are good enough for you, me.  I am the strongest player in the world right now.