Masterclass of Smith-Morra Gambit

n8boy
rnbq2r1/1p2kQ1p/p2pp3/4N3/1BB1n3/8/P4PPP/R3K2R b KQ - 1 17
n8boy
1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 e6 6. Nf3 Bb4+ 7. Nc3 Bxc3+
8. Bxc3 f6 9. e5 a6 10. Nh4 fxe5 11. Qh5+ g6 12. Nxg6 Nf6 13. Qh3 Rg8 14. Nxe5
Ne4 15. Qh5+ Ke7 16. Bb4+ d6 17. Qf7# 1-0
n8boy
https://www.chess.com/live/game/4089682015
n8boy
Help ?
ghost_of_pushwood

Sorry, masters don't play the Smith Morra!

pfren

 

What does white has to show for a couple of pawns?

Black will park the knight at the excellent c5 square, where it cannot be attacked by pawns, and develop like ...b6, ...Bb7 etc. with a virtually winning position. The "double pawn Morra gambit" is just crap.

TheRealSlimDiCaprio
pfren wrote:

 

What does white has to show for a couple of pawns?

Black will park the knight at the excellent c5 square, where it cannot be attacked by pawns, and develop like ...b6, ...Bb7 etc. with a virtually winning position. The "double pawn Morra gambit" is just crap.

 

What a great square indeed, c5.

 

Optimissed

It's wrong from first principles if black can sacrifice a piece for a pawn and get a better ending, so white would probably have to chop the knight on a6 to prevent black from being able to achieve that kind of ending. Then white would probably have to castle k-side AND advance the k-side pawns against black's king, which black can leave on e8 in any case. I'd rather be black, for sure.

ghost_of_pushwood

Much like Lou Reed!

n8boy
While I can see from a higher level of chess why you would be apposed to smith morra and I assume the danish gambit as well but do you have any other more sound gambit liners which have an edge of danger to them
Optimissed
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

Much like Lou Reed!

I thought he was quite happy as he was?

Optimissed
n8boy wrote:
While I can see from a higher level of chess why you would be apposed to smith morra and I assume the danish gambit as well but do you have any other more sound gambit liners which have an edge of danger to them>>

The Albin is under-rated and the Budapest is overrated. That one where they play d4 ... d5 and then white plays e4, Nc3 and then f3 is better than its reputation.

ghost_of_pushwood

Still, Lou was on record (literally) saying "I Wanna Be Black."  Perhaps he just wanted to be painted black.

Rat1960

Maybe the black player in the game did not see 6. ... Na6 7. BxN Qa5+

Optimissed
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

Still, Lou was on record (literally) saying "I Wanna Be Black."  Perhaps he just wanted to be painted black.

It was a game of draughts.  Checkers. Black moves first.

MustangMate

The Morra can not be played as a Danish. Black's e pawn stops any such ideas. Naturally 4. Nc3 is required and is equal.  

MustangMate

Masters do not play the Morra. Why? Not because of 3 ... dxc3 but 3. ... Nf6 gives Black the best winning chances. Hence, Masters avoid walking into the Alapin as White. It is the lower rated players who believe the myth of accepting the pawn refutes the Gambit, much to the delight of Morra players.

pfren
Optimissed έγραψε:

It's wrong from first principles if black can sacrifice a piece for a pawn and get a better ending, so white would probably have to chop the knight on a6 to prevent black from being able to achieve that kind of ending. Then white would probably have to castle k-side AND advance the k-side pawns against black's king, which black can leave on e8 in any case. I'd rather be black, for sure.

 

7.Bxa6 is a no-go because of 7...Qa5+ and ...Qxa6, and now white even has trouble castling without allowing a queen swap.

Rat1960

#18 I said that (#14) but ghosty was busy singing lou reed, rolling stones and who knows what else all over the thread.

beafraid3

Any opening is playable at the rating level you are at which is below master level but above some posters