The reason I call this needlessly flashy, is because I was up a piece and could have ground my opponent. Instead, I went for the king. Not only am I a piecup, but just look at the activity of my rooks.
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why is Rg4+ a blunder?
Think he means Qg4+, no?
i was joking. Saccing the queen is just way more fun.
In your notes, I disagree about 2.Rb8 ... it isn't much of a resource... black answers 2...Nf3+ gxf3 Qxb8, and white's down a full rook with no reason to play on.
Actually... that rook sac looks sexy as hell but I think you've missed some resources of White's that would at least have made you think:
You know, it may have been more needlessly flashy than you realized!
yup. missed that. sorry.
tarikhk wrote:
yup. missed that. sorry.
Look at my edited post with the new material... there's more to look at!
Apr 7, 2010
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Rg4+ is a blunder in the same way that Bxg3+ is a blunder here.
f4 e5 fxe5 d6 exd6 Bxd6 Nc3 Qh4+ g3
Hmmmm... jeez, this sac is completely up in the air. In my earlier analysis, 4.Ng4 doesn't get an exclam, it's a ?? It walks into a forced mate after 4...Rb1+ ...Where to put the Black king after Qd5+ is critical.
Well, curiousity got the better of me and I let the computer solve this thing --
The sack is sound, but my gxh3 Qxh3 Qd5+ is indeed a critical line. After the check black has Kf8, Kh7, or Kh8... one wins... the other two draw or worse! If you place the king correctly (mouse over brackets for answer) [ Kh7] ... black plays f4! and now you have to find the continuation: It's not an easy continuation to find IMO.[Qe3+ Kh1 Rc2]
From JG27Pyth's post black seems to be losing: if 3....Kh8, 4.f4! Ng4, then 5.Rb8+ Kh7, 6.Qf5+ g6, 7.Qf7# or if 3....Kh7, 4.f4! Ng4, then 5. Qf5+ g6, 7.Qf7+ Kh8, 8.Rb8#
Mawia wrote:
From JG27Pyth's post black seems to be losing: if 3....Kh8, 4.f4! Ng4, then 5.Rb8+ Kh7, 6.Qf5+ g6, 7.Qf7# or if 3....Kh7, 4.f4! Ng4, then 5. Qf5+ g6, 7.Qf7+ Kh8, 8.Rb8#
Kh8 isn't losing but it throws away the win...
3...Kh7 4.f4! is the critical line, and as you've demonstrated Ng4 fails miserably -- if you want Black's continuation mouse over the last brackets in my post #11 ... this finish is quite a tester. I don't think I would have passed.