I would say smothered
nice smothered mate
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Allright but give me some arguments!
the king is surrounded, but thats what a smothered mate is!
IHaveTHECoronaVirus wrote:
I would say smothered
Closer to epaulet than smothered.
Definition:A smothered mate is given by a knight. But in the diagram a pawn is mating. Interesting stuff.
jetoba schreef:
IHaveTHECoronaVirus wrote:
I would say smothered
Closer to epaulet than smothered.
Nonsens.
eric0022 wrote:
We call it the suffocation mate - this is a checkmate which is very similar to smothered mate except that not all squares around the king are blocked by friendly pieces. In this case, the g1 square is not occupied by a friendly piece, but attacked by the enemy pawn on f2.
I had not heard the term suffocation before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate_pattern
jetoba schreef:
eric0022 wrote:
We call it the suffocation mate - this is a checkmate which is very similar to smothered mate except that not all squares around the king are blocked by friendly pieces. In this case, the g1 square is not occupied by a friendly piece, but attacked by the enemy pawn on f2.
I had not heard the term suffocation before.
No problem Jetoba. But why is this a suffocation mate?The king is surrounded by own pieces and smothered. Conditions for a smothered mate. The missing link? The knight. But the king is very very smothered.
Riverlandjack wrote:
No problem Jetoba. But why is this a suffocation mate?The king is surrounded by own pieces and smothered. Conditions for a smothered mate. The missing link? The knight. But the king is very very smothered.
The wikipedia link limits smothered to a king surrounded by its own pieces and mated by a knight while suffocation is a king checkmated by a knight with one open square covered by an enemy bishop (well, a pawn should do it as well).
jetoba schreef:
Riverlandjack wrote:
No problem Jetoba. But why is this a suffocation mate?The king is surrounded by own pieces and smothered. Conditions for a smothered mate. The missing link? The knight. But the king is very very smothered.
The wikipedia link limits smothered to a king surrounded by its own pieces and mated by a knight while suffocation is a king checkmated by a knight with one open square covered by an enemy bishop (well, a pawn should do it as well).
I try to figure something out. The king is not mating by a knight. The king is mating by a pawn. But the king is surrounded by own pieces and the mating pawn. No space no gap. No open square.
I am not attacking you but I don't like the definition of smothered mate.
Riverlandjack wrote:
jetoba schreef:
Riverlandjack wrote:
No problem Jetoba. But why is this a suffocation mate?The king is surrounded by own pieces and smothered. Conditions for a smothered mate. The missing link? The knight. But the king is very very smothered.
The wikipedia link limits smothered to a king surrounded by its own pieces and mated by a knight while suffocation is a king checkmated by a knight with one open square covered by an enemy bishop (well, a pawn should do it as well).
I try to figure something out. The king is not mating by a knight. The king is mating by a pawn. But the king is surrounded by own pieces and the mating pawn. No space no gap. No open square.
I am not attacking you but I don't like the definition of smothered mate.
I was quoting about the first position, not the second. As far as the second goes, the definition of both smothered and suffocation mates include the mate being delivered by a knight. The pawn mate (second position) does not follow any of the 34-35 mating patterns listed (one pattern has two names and two patterns are virtually the same) because it would be so rare. The epaulet/epaulette mate and swallow's tail mate are vaguely similar to the pawn mate in that both involve the king's escape squares being blocked by its own army, but both of those mates have vacant squares also covered by the checking piece.
What kind of mate is this?The king is surrounded by own pieces.
Surrounded or smothered?