Also, the catalan is part of the queen's gambit family. I know of one line in the closed catalan that can transpose to the stonewall but apart from that they should not intersect.
It's just that bg2 is considered the main way of fighting the dutch as it makes it harder for black to attack the king, which is generally what he tries.
why is the dutch dubious lol
can someone explain
stone wall is a bit dubious but, leningrad and classical aren't. DaBaby just thinks that any Dutch is lol
Actually stonewall is a perfectly sound opening choice, and is quite deadly if used as a transposition structure-wise. I would say as a leningrad player that the leningrad is the most dubious of the three but is also in my opinion the most fun to play.
since when do you play the leningrad
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@DaBabysBurner isn't she gurl from belzium... now togo man ?
Yeah her name is Maddie, she is 19, lives in Belgium, and she is single
@DaBabysBurner isn't she gurl from belzium... now togo man ?
Yeah her name is Maddie, she is 19, lives in Belgium, and she is single
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@DaBabysBurner isn't she gurl from belzium... now togo man ?
Yeah her name is Maddie, she is 19, lives in Belgium, and she is single
sigh
What’s wrong Maddie?
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why is the dutch dubious lol
can someone explain
stone wall is a bit dubious but, leningrad and classical aren't. DaBaby just thinks that any Dutch is lol
Actually stonewall is a perfectly sound opening choice, and is quite deadly if used as a transposition structure-wise. I would say as a leningrad player that the leningrad is the most dubious of the three but is also in my opinion the most fun to play.
since when do you play the leningrad
Leningrad bird, leningrad dutch- back in my under 1900 years
Na4 seems to be trapped by b3. I tried to make it it work for black but I couldn't. N6d7 might be better.
Qc2 and then taking with the pawn seems illogical, unless the idea was to keep the e4 advance which white didn't do. In the end black got the advantages of the nimzo without having to give up the bishop pair, and he also gets e5 in. And white didn't seem to get anything good from the d5 advance.
The four pawns against the alekhine is probably the most theoretically demanding of white's options. Just saying. Nf3 and the exchange variation gives white easier play.