Proof that a 1000 player could beat Carlsen

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It would only be a roughly 1800-point upset.  Very rare, but not impossible.

Ladies and gentlemen, let me present you with a 2300 point upset:

https://www.chess.com/live/game/1888193087

This actually proves that a 600-rated player could beat Carlsen.  In bullet, anyway.

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Cheat detection?  Couldn't Joe Smoe at chess simply have a Master play for him?  How would they detect cheating then?

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Daybreak57 wrote:

Cheat detection?  Couldn't Joe Smoe at chess simply have a Master play for him?  How would they detect cheating then?

@morethantwentycharac's comment was simply a joke.  This game was obviously staged.  (and, being unrated, there's nothing wrong with that)

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Do you mean cheating is okay in unrated games?

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Lone_Bird960 wrote:

Do you mean cheating is okay in unrated games?

Ethically, no, not if your opponent expects you to play yourself, but I don't think the site cares if you do. People can use unrated games to try different things like human/engine vs engine and practice / coaching games.

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Engine use is permitted in unrated games if both players agree, but that's obviously not what was happening here.

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I'm confused what is the purpose of the staged game?

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Lone_Bird960 wrote:

I'm confused what is the purpose of the staged game?

Here's a topic that explains it:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/proof-that-a-1000-player-could-beat-carlsen

"Ladies and gentlemen, let me present you with a 2300 point upset"

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But the game is staged so it is not really upset.

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Do you enjoy movies or magic tricks even though you know they're not real?

It's just for fun.

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MGleason wrote:

https://www.chess.com/live/game/1888193087

This actually proves that a 600-rated player could beat Carlsen.  In bullet, anyway.

 

It proves nothing, and you know it.

 

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I expected this to be a troll thread. All I found was some kind of joke.

You, sir, have trolled me with this nice clickbait.

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ModestAndPolite wrote:
MGleason wrote:

https://www.chess.com/live/game/1888193087

This actually proves that a 600-rated player could beat Carlsen.  In bullet, anyway.

 

It proves nothing, and you know it.

 

Beware, the fun police has arrived!

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u mean...MAGNUS CARLSEN.....would reply ...blindly...to such childish opening...lol......

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Telestu wrote:
Lone_Bird960 wrote:

I'm confused what is the purpose of the staged game?

Here's a topic that explains it:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/proof-that-a-1000-player-could-beat-carlsen

"Ladies and gentlemen, let me present you with a 2300 point upset"

Recursion.

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kingofshedinjas wrote:
ModestAndPolite wrote:
MGleason wrote:

https://www.chess.com/live/game/1888193087

This actually proves that a 600-rated player could beat Carlsen.  In bullet, anyway.

 

It proves nothing, and you know it.

 

Beware, the fun police has arrived!

ahhhhh!!! run for your lives guys!

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 h6 was played in 0.1 seconds. 1 minute chess, probably a pre-move - oops I didn't expect him to play 5 Qb3...

 

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I don't doubt h6 at all. However, I do doubt 4: ...Rg8. In bullet, this makes no sense. 4: ...Kf8 is a sensible mouseslip and would make the game believable. But ANY bullet player would premove (or at least prepare with his mouse) O-O.

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Yeah, that's partly why I think this game was staged.