That is a good question, no? What is so scholarly about getting checkmated so quickly.
I think in some countries what we in America call "Fool's Mate" (1. g4 e5 2. f3 Qh4#) is known as "Scholar's Mate" as well, right?
No. Scholar's Mate is a four move lose.
Some countries call what we call Scholar's Mate by the name Fool's Mate. I agree, the name is strange. Fool's Mate at least makes sense.
Another thing, you ever get on chesscube.com and just mess around offering your opponent a fool's mate with 1. g4 and 2. f3...and they totally miss it? What is up with that?
If they call the Scholar's Mate Fool's mate, then what do they call the actual Fool's mate?
From the "Oxford Companion to Chess'
Fool's Mate: the shortest game ending in mate e.g. 1.g4 e6 or e5 2.f3 or f4 Qh4. Eight possible way of reaching this.
Scholar's Mate: a mate given by a queen when it captures an opponent's unmoved f-pawn early in the game e.g. 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 Nc6 3.Bc4 d6 4.Qxf7 mate. Arthur Saul, in the Famous Game of Chesse-play (1614), said "it is a schollers mate, but there is no man of judgement in Chesse-play will take such a mate; it may be called also a treachous mate;....."
No I think they call Fool's Mate Scholar's Mate.
And thank you KCO for posting that information from Oxford's publication.
Maybe they should invent a Ghoul's mate.
I've wondered if it's a scholar's mate when it's in 4 moves or when it's on f2/f7 when the king is still in the center, even later in the game.
In your game, I get g6. Why Bg7? Doesn't it put the bishop on a blocked diagonal? I mean, I'm sure there are good reasons to, but it does take a while to move that e-pawn.
It's interesting how active your position is compared to theirs. 10. b3 blocks both of their bishops, their queen's knight, and their rook.
I think its "scholar's mate" anytime checkmate is threatened in one move on the f2/f7 square. Sometimes, the simple threat of a imminent "scholar's mate" in the middlegame can coax the enemy into compromising his pawn structure with a g7-g6 or g2-g3, leading to a structural weakness in the kingside pawn structure one can take advantage of. As they say, the threat is often more damaging than the execution.
Cheers,
Becky
I think its "scholar's mate" anytime checkmate is threatened in one move on the f2/f7 square. Sometimes, the simple threat of a imminent "scholar's mate" in the middlegame can coax the enemy into compromising his pawn structure with a g7-g6 or g2-g3, leading to a structural weakness in the kingside pawn structure one can take advantage of. As they say, the threat is often more damaging than the execution.
Cheers,
Becky
Becky?
This is copied and pasted from the internet but it is interesting at face value:
Cheers,
Becky
Legall's Mate is one of the best, most surprising combinations ever.
Cheers,
Becky
They were sucked in by the queen grab.
I was sucked in by the Queen grab once in the Castro District of San Francisco some time ago...long story...
Cheers,
Becky
It's always fun when the opponent rushes into this. In this game, instead of winning the pawn like in the classic example, you would have lost a knight with better play.
ClavierCavalier wrote :
It's always fun when the opponent rushes into this. In this game, instead of winning the pawn like in the classic example, you would have lost a knight with better play.
That is a good question, no? What is so scholarly about getting checkmated so quickly.
I think in some countries what we in America call "Fool's Mate" (1. g4 e5 2. f3 Qh4#) is known as "Scholar's Mate" as well, right?