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What do you think about the Grunfeld Defense?

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I know nothing about it.

Shravani_Patil

Just since 6 months I am playing Queens pawn game and m favourite variation is Grunfeld defense and you know I just love it like anything and as Jamiekolwaski said it is very interesting  and for both the players and as for black the fianchetto structure and for white the pawn structure ,something is their to learn from every move and I just love it .

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"Grunfeld Queen Exchange Balanced" results in almost 50-50. White leads Black by small positional advantage (1%?) - in my opinion as two rooks are now free to move sideways.

(Grunfeld Queen Exchange Balanced)

The above game may have small variations like this. Here Black makes huge blunder. Black's Queen is lost (The Queen captures Bb4 and then Rook captures the Queen.)

(Grunfeld Defense : Blunder by Black)

Actually engine shows that in move 11. Black Queen should be positioned at Qh5 instead of Qa3. From the above game it is easy to understand that if White goes for wrong calculation then Black leads serious advantage. How? Here it is. 

(Grunfeld Defense : Blunder by White)

Now a small variation in the game shows how Black loses second most valuable piece i.e. Queen (first and foremost is obviously the King) again. King shifts to 8th room (huge blunder). Watch the game below. 

 
dawson_632

busted probably

varelse1

I recently witnessed somebody ask GM Alejandro Rodriguez "If you could be second for any player of your choosing, who would you pick?"

Alex responded "Svidler! I would only need to know one opening! The Gruenfeld!"

Then he went on to do a mock conversation between himself and Svidler:  "Gruenfeld still sound? Yep! Okay, see you tomorrow!"

Optimissed

I think it's very, very difficult to play well against all approaches.

Optimissed
dawson_632 wrote:

busted probably

yes, looks won for white in all variations.

Optimissed

There's a story, I think true, about a very drunk GM, who after the moves 1. e4 Nc3 2. f4 b6 3. Nf3 e5 said "I didn't know the Grunfeld loses a pawn".

Or some moves like that.

WeakBish

The Grunfeld is a tactical opening that alerts your opponent from the onset that you are ready to fight. I used to play to it often but I would run into the Russian System: 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Qb3, which i believe is better  for white according to engines and my personal experiences. I would recommend studying games played by Peter Svidler, the foremost expert on the Grunfeld. 

Optimissed

The Russian system is ok but against someone who is really booked up, it's hard to make much progress and I find I do just as well making it up as I go along. Sometimes I play the Russian, sometimes e3 and sometimes Bf4 followed by e3, which seems quite a good basis to attack the Grunfeld.

MarcBeo
LavaRook wrote:

I think its a great opening--I play it as white in the Rb1 pawn sac lines.

Lots of theory you have to keep up with though but its not a big deal just download TWIC every week.

In one of the main lines of the Nf3/Rb1 line, Black has to potentially sac the exchange. He gets really good dynamic compensation though.

Black will pick up the e pawn safely. He has some nice passers on the queen side for compensation. And 2B's for now.
 

 

 

 

You should play Ne5 instead of Na5

 

Optimissed

Very sharp, bookish, analysed, and fine for black. Great way to play for a win. Wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole.

Had it played against me three times in the last couple of weeks at the local chess club. THe guy is fed up losing with the Nimzo and KID. 20 minute games. I lost the first playing my favourite Russian system, Qb3, mainly because it was two years since anybody played the Grunfeld against me. Then won twice with Bf4 and e3, But I used to get ok results just with e3, leaving the B on c8. Or with a neo-grunfeld, playing Nf3 and not Nc3. That's quite good for white.

Optimissed

Kasparov's line, as opposed to Karpov's. Karpov's may be stronger.

zNewPIayer2
Grunfeld isn’t bad, but the best opening is probably the Dutch if White plays 1. d4.
Optimissed

1. d4 ...f5
2. e4
Vastly under-rated.

OldPatzerMike
Optimissed wrote:

1. d4 ...f5
2. e4
Vastly under-rated.

The Staunton Gambit is certainly not easy to face. That's why, on the rare occasions when I want to play the Dutch, I use a different move order: 1. d4 e6 2. c4 f5. Another nice thing about 1...e6 is that it leaves open the possibility of playing, for example, the QGD, English Defense, or Nimzo/Bogo/QID complex. Obviously, you have to be prepared to play the French if White plays 2. e4.

RaviNegiChess