🤔🔥What's your biggest chess HOT TAKE🔥🤔

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snoozyman wrote:
Chickens should replace horses

uhhhhh...ok?

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snoozyman a écrit :
Chickens should replace horses

Cold af take

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nonotrocosto2011 wrote:
snoozyman a écrit :
Chickens should replace horses

Cold af take

lol

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xDamkiller wrote:
smiley_face10 napisał:

I think the topic speaks for itself. Just post your biggest chess HOT takes🔥 and watch as your one singular post sparks the biggest controversy you've ever seen(it probably won't but...). Give an explanation to your take(or don't that could also work lol) and just hope you don't wake up to a million hate comments! I searched multiple times to find a chess hot take forum and...I genuinely couldn't find a singular one sooooooo I decided to make one of my own! Anyway here's my biggest chess hot take:

Chess is partially a luck based game. Just hear me out(Im definitely gonna get called out because of this)😅. For every move you make, it makes an impact on the overall game and the future. We obviously can't predict what you or your opponent will play for say the next 40 moves. So if you really think about it sometimes a piece will just conveniently or inconveniently be there for some crazy checkmate or your absolute demise. You can argue with something like "that's why you plan ahead" but again if you really think about it that's just an educated move and you've got no idea when or how it'll actually end up helping you sometimes. Positions can get weird and even a single pawn you ended up pushing 1 square up like 20 moves ago can make an absolute comeback into the game and do all sorts of things like: promote, just conveniently be there to cut off your opponent's king, being the game winning piece by somehow forcing a checkmate, etc. Chess has emergent outcomes and while you can somewhat control it by preparing yourself you'll never be able to fully predict the outcome. So whether or not you agree with me I think that chess = partial luck(ok it's not like I'm saying it's mostly luck or anything).

getting to 1000, is just basic logic, but most people are fried by tik tok, thinking that it requires accuall skill

Big take and I wont be the one to argue against it.

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Internet ratings are like Bigfoot... is he real or not?

Lot of cheating goes on ... (on every chess site) hence my view of internet ratings

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pcalugaru wrote:

Internet ratings are like Bigfoot... is he real or not?

Lot of cheating goes on ... (on every chess site) hence my view of internet ratings

fair

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Verwarr wrote:

Chess player is p2w if you want to be able to have a chance to get a GM title because you need to have money to be able to focus all your time to grind/ learning chess to have a slightest change to get the title. Note: If you're prodigy, it's a different story.

I would say play to participate, not necessarily to win, you still have to win the games. It actually draws a good analogy to professional bass fishing; you need money to tour and buy high end equipment, boat, truck, electronics, etc but you still have to catch the fish to win the tournaments. So I guess that's a great hot take because it's flawed lol
Edit: oh and you can go back and edit your comment instead of a new one, like this.

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WoodPusherInc wrote:
Verwarr wrote:

Chess player is p2w if you want to be able to have a chance to get a GM title because you need to have money to be able to focus all your time to grind/ learning chess to have a slightest change to get the title. Note: If you're prodigy, it's a different story.

I would say play to participate, not necessarily to win, you still have to win the games. It actually draws a good analogy to professional bass fishing; you need money to tour and buy high end equipment, boat, truck, electronics, etc but you still have to catch the fish to win the tournaments. So I guess that's a great hot take because it's flawed lol
Edit: oh and you can go back and edit your comment instead of a new one, like this.

But if you don't have all the equipment or in this case the money to participate you wont be able to win games to begin with.

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It's the sort of thing where one can't go on without the other.

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My point exactly, glad we cleared that up happy

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Knights over bishops
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Rumsey12 wrote:
Knights over bishops

and why is that?

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smiley_face10 wrote:
CoachingForLess wrote:

the best opening is the polish opening

no...it's the barnes

Or perhaps the Barnes & Noble (where you're never out of book)?

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snoozyman wrote:
Chickens should replace horses

Emus should replace chickens!

My hot take?

1) Most players - and especially young players - put WAY TOO MUCH effort into memorizing traps and opening lines. At least five times too much, and more in some cases. Putting just half that much energy into a study of central Pawn structure instead... or realistic endgames (K+Ps vs K+Ps, or K+R+Ps vs K+R+Ps) would pay much bigger dividends.

2) People are also way too concerned about minimizing the risk of losing. You learn FAR more from a game that you lost than from a game that you won. By trying to minimize the risk of losing a game, you also slow down your growth as a chess player. Take risks! Go big, or go home!

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blueemu wrote:
snoozyman wrote:
Chickens should replace horses

Emus should replace chickens!

My hot take?

1) Most players - and especially young players - put WAY TOO MUCH effort into memorizing traps and opening lines. At least five times too much, and more in some cases. Putting just half that much energy into a study of central Pawn structure instead... or realistic endgames (K+Ps vs K+Ps, or K+R+Ps vs K+R+Ps) would pay much bigger dividends.

2) People are also way too concerned about minimizing the risk of losing. You learn FAR more from a game that you lost than from a game that you won. By trying to minimize the risk of losing a game, you also slow down your growth as a chess player. Take risks! Go big, or go home!

I definitely agree with that

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Unless you are able and willing to play lots of rated OTB tournaments, the value of chess comes from enjoyment playing games and thinking about specific positions in games. Winning >50% of games to obtain a higher online rating delivers no value. The only value of improvement is learning something specific then recognizing what you have learned in games and enjoying that feeling.

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Fair take

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Fr3nchToastCrunch wrote:

I've got two really nasty ones that a lot of people don't seem to like. Here goes nothing...


1. GothamChess is extremely overrated.

All he does is glaze the Caro-Kann Defense to the point where you'd think he's getting paid to do it, make fun of noobs (they pretty much ask for it, but still) instead of trying to help them understand what they're doing wrong, and milk Magnus for all he's worth. And he does it all while screaming loudly at everything, explaining the painfully obvious in an over-the-top manner, and overall being unbelievably obnoxious in general to the point that I'm pretty sure his neighbors must absolutely hate him.

You can't deny that it worked; he's got a cult following like no other. But it doesn't change the fact that his content can be accurately summed up as "chess brainrot."

2. Ding Liren lost the 2024 World Chess Championship on purpose.

I don't understand why this is controversial. Ding was going through horrendous mental health struggles at the time and his performance was suffering as a result, but Gukesh still had a hard time trying to defeat him. It finally ended when Ding made an incredibly dumb mistake in the last game that even someone at my rating would be able to realize is a losing move and not even consider playing. Not to mention Ding had plenty of time left on his clock, so he had more than enough time to realize that the losing move he played was obviously a blunder. Gukesh's poor performances since then have only served to further reinforce my belief that if Ding was mentally well and really trying to win, he would have wiped the floor with him.

I could not agree more with #1

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@blueemu I agree with both

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Ya. He definitely went from the actual internet chess teacher he once used to be to whatever the frick he does now.