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Loudcolor
Aug 8, 2018
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#1
Is this a variant, or is it in a different notation?
Translated :
1. g4, d5
2. Bg2 Bxg4
3. c4 c6
4. cxd5 cxd5
5. Qb3 Nf6
6. Nc3 e6
7. Qxb7 Nbd7
8. Nb5 Rc8
9. Nxa7 Rc7
10. Qa6 Qa8
11. Nb5 Rc8
12. Qxa8 Rxa8
13. Nc7+ 1-0
1. g4, d5
2. Bg2 Bxg4
3. c4 c6
4. cxd5 cxd5
5. Qb3 Nf6
6. Nc3 e6
7. Qxb7 Nbd7
8. Nb5 Rc8
9. Nxa7 Rc7
10. Qa6 Qa8
11. Nb5 Rc8
12. Qxa8 Rxa8
13. Nc7+ 1-0
The whole line is just losing. White's position is already very bad after 7...Nbd7, and going for the a7 pawn with lagging development and numerous weaknesses is simply suicidal.
LM_player wrote:
12. nc7 is much better.
Translated :
1. g4, d5
2. Bg2 Bxg4
3. c4 c6
4. cxd5 cxd5
5. Qb3 Nf6
6. Nc3 e6
7. Qxb7 Nbd7
8. Nb5 Rc8
9. Nxa7 Rc7
10. Qa6 Qa8
11. Nb5 Rc8
12. Qxa8 Rxa8
13. Nc7+ 1-0
Wow, I will start playing only the Grob's ... I see the light ...not !?
Oct 30, 2018
0
#8
Now that there is a thread on the Grob, what do people think of this exchange sacrifice for black?
In my view this refutes the entire concept of the Grob, as the opening would be meaningless if it were not for the threats with the fianchettoed bishop. After the exchange sacrifice, black has the bishop pair and white will struggle activating his 'extra' rook with the king in the centre, so I think black's compensation is quite clear. The computer is giving black the advantage, but suggests white should decline the sacrifice:
my137thaccount έγραψε:
Now that there is a thread on the Grob, what do people think of this exchange sacrifice for black?
In my view this refutes the entire concept of the Grob, as the opening would be meaningless if it were not for the threats with the fianchettoed bishop. After the exchange sacrifice, black has the bishop pair and white will struggle activating his 'extra' rook with the king in the centre, so I think black's compensation is quite clear. The computer is giving black the advantage, but suggests white should decline the sacrifice:
What for?
Sure, white has great compensation (which may be even greater after 3...d4!? instead of 3...dxc4), but white's position is a horrible mess in the main line after 3...c6 (see post #5).
elaborate because I've always been present and ready to give you some good games! 