1600 players as strong as a 2000 player?

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bong711
dragwe wrote:
How can a 1600 be a 2000

1600 player on steroids = 2000 player

osdeving8
drmrboss escreveu:
osdeving8 wrote:

1770 now with 220 games. Maybe in 1,5k games I'm in 2000 mark again!

I have to grind at the chess to be profitable lol.

Who plays poker understands what I'm talking about! In poker when we do not convincingly beat our level we need to grind to use our minimum winrate which we eventually have

EDIT: I'm 1800 now... I know nobody care, but that is pretty interesting, 1800 up to 1950 I feel more confortable.... the problem is 1600~1800

220 games is more than enough to reach ur desired rating! If you are 1770 with 220 games , you will be 1770 with 10,000 games as well. ( 1570-1970  rating up and down).

I would think I'm 'overrated' when I reach 2000+, but I was able reach that rating in more than one time. My best blitz rating in chess.com was 2078 and no lichess 2136. I dont know, maybe I'm tired, maybe the 'thing' which allow I reach 2000 is miss when I'm tired. Howrever, if I can discorver what is that 'thing' that would be interesting... I'm trying using that like a scientific study about player level! But it is hard understand WHAT I have when I reach 2000 and WHAT I dont have when I get stuck in 1600~1800

LionVanHalen

Yes, this sort of thing has been noted before...

Players of 14k or 16k being tougher to beat than 20k.

i think most suspect the reason, but are afraid to say...

Opinion... i suspect many are... dubious, and sooner or later they get to a point where they either get caught, or get paired with another engine...

If one can just get over that Hump... you will be playing genuine, skilled players, mostly.

Of course Lion will now get the usual abuse from the forum bullies, patzer, losser, ect.

Many of which talk Horse manure.

osdeving8

I think the secret is tactical play. If I can maintain positional chess I can avoid to think, but when I mess the postion I need think concrete variations and I'm not better than 1600~2000 player...

Once I reached a winning position against a player with 2200 and I told him (knowing I would not be able to convert):

"Ok, I resign right now if you tell me what the blacks plan in that position to win"

He then said: Just wait for Black to make a mistake!

That was interesting, I do not have to do anything, just wait. That's probably how high-rated players play against low-rated players, they do not get into 'dance' with them.

Martin_Stahl
osdeving8 wrote:
Ghost_Horse0 escreveu:

Link your old account so we can see how many games it played and what your rating was.

I I delete my account. You do not believe me? I had about 3k games, my glicko rating variation was 30 (this indicates a stable rating) and my rating ranged from 1900 to 2000, but in some happy sessions I could cross the 2000 mark. Even I posted here a topic with the title: 'my best rating ever, lets celebrate' (or something like that).

 

You can't delete your account here. You can close it but the account is still there, the ratings and games history can still be seen.

osdeving8
Martin_Stahl escreveu:
osdeving8 wrote:
Ghost_Horse0 escreveu:

Link your old account so we can see how many games it played and what your rating was.

I I delete my account. You do not believe me? I had about 3k games, my glicko rating variation was 30 (this indicates a stable rating) and my rating ranged from 1900 to 2000, but in some happy sessions I could cross the 2000 mark. Even I posted here a topic with the title: 'my best rating ever, lets celebrate' (or something like that).

 

You can't delete your account here. You can close it but the account is still there, the ratings and games history can still be seen.

good luck searching by "osdeving", I was not able to find... If you have sucess pass the link for me!

EDIT:

Oooops, searching in goole (instead chess.com) I find my old accout:

https://www.chess.com/member/osdeving

Like you can see, my best rating in blitz was 2073 about 15 days ago. I'm not a lie if someone would think that...

jjupiter6

You could have saved yourself from typing this thread if you didn't close your account and open another straight away. seems like a bit of a waste of time to me.

osdeving8
jjupiter6 escreveu:

You could have saved yourself from typing this thread if you didn't close your account and open another straight away. seems like a bit of a waste of time to me.

that is other question man... Anyway, people do not make mistakes deliberately. Warnings like 'waste of time' or 'nonsense' or 'you should not have done it', or 'it's not good to do such a thing' always says the same answer: 'Seriously!?'

Ghost_Horse0

It took me ~9 hours and ~115 games, but I went from 1500 to 2000 starting with an RD of ~35.

Started to tilt 8 hours into it at 1950, took an hour break, got something to eat, and came back to win 8 of my last 10 games.

https://www.chess.com/member/philcollinsscrotum

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I admit that when my opponents started to be 1800 I felt relieved a bit. Since that's closer to my rating, they feel more logical, and even if I lost the games weren't as weird or chaotic.

osdeving8
Ghost_Horse0 escreveu:

It took me ~9 hours and ~115 games, but I went from 1500 to 2000 starting with an RD of ~35.

Started to tilt 8 hours into it at 1950, took an hour break, got something to eat, and came back to win 8 of my last 10 games.

https://www.chess.com/member/philcollinsscrotum

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I admit that when my opponents started to be 1800 I felt relieved a bit. Since that's closer to my rating, they feel more logical, and even if I lost the games weren't as weird or chaotic.

I dont know what to say... There are players unstables, Mamedyarov is an example of the chess elite.

Maybe I would be more happy If I control my tilt. It makes no sense to lose 6 straight games against players 300 points below. I think someone 'normal' would go out for a breath after the third or fourth loss!?

The hypothesis that I am overrated can not be correct if I, with suffering or not, always reach 1950 ~ 2000 at a minimum!

unusualkid
osdeving8 wrote:

 "Why the fuck was I 2000?"

Can a mod please handle this?

LifeOfLooney

I am around 1600 rn, was high 1800s top 100,000 or 5% online. Lol. Never studied except for reading articles on openings and practicing. Met a really good player and have been working on new moves, plan on studying when I get back to 1800s. I like to lose 100 and see if I can win 10 straight. I don't give up games just try ridiculous moves to see chess psychology...sometimes I make up stories in my mind about a king, car, black and white ppl...etc. I have a conspiracy theory as well...buhhh keep playing and hopefully yoully never know how strong I was until a GM match or the highest me and my opponent are, whoever that may be...dun dun dun

Destroyer942
Ghost_Horse0 wrote:

Link your old account so we can see how many games it played and what your rating was.

Are you the same person that played me that one time(look at my best win, is that your old account?)

maathheus

How long were you away from chess? I am just 1250, but if I stay 3 weeks without practising when I get back my rating goes 100 down, and it takes a couple of weeks to get back to where I was.

LifeOfLooney

I think it's normal for ratings to fluctuate 100 points up or down, like the stock exchange. Perhaps, openings, moves, or strategies become popular and trend. So you can imagine how taking a break may alter your involvement. I like running into players I've played before, sometimes we met at the 900s and back up at 1200s. 

There was this girl Daniel from Detroit, really hope we get a chance to play again.

P.s. my highest was actually high 1700s; listen to my music on Instagram my tag is lorlooneytrap

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Sun-and-Moon

To be honest, we all can beat and lose to higher and lower rated players. It happens. Some titled people here just don't take online chess seriously at all. I use this as my best resort to improve, practice, and have fun. I personally don't prefer focusing on ratings now, but just the quality of play and the beauty of game. Skills in chess is the most important thing, not ratings happy.png

Ghost_Horse0
Destroyer942 wrote:
Ghost_Horse0 wrote:

Link your old account so we can see how many games it played and what your rating was.

Are you the same person that played me that one time(look at my best win, is that your old account?)

Yep, looks like we played at some point.

joe6699

I am rated around 1950 in blitz on chesscube and here at chess.com i am rated around 1600. The 1500-1600 are indeed strong!