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shru · 2026-01-11T18:55:19-08:00

I suggested this idea of there being a thread were you can just kind of say anything chess related with no particular theme to the thread, (I said this on the hot takes thread) and a number of people really liked that idea. Feel free to share games, openings, introduce yourself to the chess communit

Volt

17 days ago

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cheeseblackbelt wrote:

Puzzles are less interesting because you are tempted to just go with your idea and just take back if you're wrong instead of calculating the whole line

wow finally someone who thinks like me

Etymologist35

16 days ago

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shru wrote:

Anyway, what I was going to say was that I think having piece values (like rook is five) hurts chess, since

1. Players won’t make sacrifices as much at lower levels

2. players are more likely to trade just because they can and by material points it’s a fair trade, which is a huge problem for beginners.

Well trading off pieces is a problem for beginners anyway. Trading just to trade.

"We" don't see tactics as well. I am lower rated but not necessarily a beginner.

I believe this is an area I have improved in, meaning NOT trading just to trade. I try to trade it improves my position but often see where "to take is a mistake" better than I once did.

I can't say I agree that a point system is bad. (If that's what you mean?) I think the way Cc values is a simple way to know what is what, for the TRUE beginner. I've seen all sorts of value systems but for a simple system the one here serves it's purpose, I think.

I don't know how much I sacrifice meaningfully, but better today that 10 years ago. Lol

shru

16 days ago

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#1543

Etymologist35 wrote:

shru wrote:

Anyway, what I was going to say was that I think having piece values (like rook is five) hurts chess, since

1. Players won’t make sacrifices as much at lower levels

2. players are more likely to trade just because they can and by material points it’s a fair trade, which is a huge problem for beginners.

Well trading off pieces is a problem for beginners anyway. Trading just to trade.

"We" don't see tactics as well. I am lower rated but not necessarily a beginner.

I believe this is an area I have improved in, meaning NOT trading just to trade. I try to trade it improves my position but often see where "to take is a mistake" better than I once did.

I can't say I agree that a point system is bad. (If that's what you mean?) I think the way Cc values is a simple way to know what is what, for the TRUE beginner. I've seen all sorts of value systems but for a simple system the one here serves it's purpose, I think.

I don't know how much I sacrifice meaningfully, but better today that 10 years ago. Lol

If you ever need help on getting 1000 I can always give advice! I do agree that the point system is quite good at scaling for beginners, but I would make SURE to teach them it depends, and really emphasize it. Also, I think chess.com should default to not showing material advantage on the side unless you turn it on in settings.

Etymologist35

16 days ago

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#1544

Volt wrote:

i came across one of lasker's games and this is one of the interesting positions (or puzzle you can say)

it's not THAT difficult, but it's worth trying to solve it (i actually had a bit of hard time solving it lol i had the idea, but i didn't know how to reply to a certain black reply until i thought for 2 whole minutes)

engines will make it less interesting, so don't use one please

I will spend some time on this. Nf3 and the rook to g6 looks interesting.

Etymologist35

16 days ago

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#1545

shru wrote:

Etymologist35 wrote:

shru wrote:

Anyway, what I was going to say was that I think having piece values (like rook is five) hurts chess, since

1. Players won’t make sacrifices as much at lower levels

2. players are more likely to trade just because they can and by material points it’s a fair trade, which is a huge problem for beginners.

Well trading off pieces is a problem for beginners anyway. Trading just to trade.

"We" don't see tactics as well. I am lower rated but not necessarily a beginner.

I believe this is an area I have improved in, meaning NOT trading just to trade. I try to trade it improves my position but often see where "to take is a mistake" better than I once did.

I can't say I agree that a point system is bad. (If that's what you mean?) I think the way Cc values is a simple way to know what is what, for the TRUE beginner. I've seen all sorts of value systems but for a simple system the one here serves it's purpose, I think.

I don't know how much I sacrifice meaningfully, but better today that 10 years ago. Lol

If you ever need help on getting 1000 I can always give advice! I do agree that the point system is quite good at scaling for beginners, but I would make SURE to teach them it depends, and really emphasize it. Also, I think chess.com should default to not showing material advantage on the side unless you turn it on in settings.

That is definitely a good idea, the settings one. I know I "lean" on the "score" instead of paying attention to the material, especially during faster time controls.

Thank you, btw. Maybe we can play an unrated instructional game sometime. I am up way past my bedtime tonight. Lol

shru

16 days ago

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#1546