A suggestion on how to fix the issue of people abandoning games

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Avatar of JayeshSinhaChess

As you know there are people who abandon games in a lost position and the other guy is 'punished' by then basically being stuck with the game till the opponent's clock runs down.

Its not that big a thing in blitz but in anything longer then 10 mins its definitely a source of annoyance.

So what I was thinking was that to fix it why not have a button that starts a 'claim win' countdown. So in a 15 min game suppose with 12 mins left on the clock a blunder happens and the guy bails.

Lets say A ran away and B is now stuck with the clock.

Now B, who is stuck with the clock, has the option to click on this 'claim win' button. Now this will prompt a message (like a draw offer does) on the other guy's screen along with a 1 minute (flexible) response countdown and if he is still active he simply presses the 'no' option before the claim win countdown ends and the game continues.

However if he has run away then the claim win countdown simply runs down to 0, and B wins instead of having to wait the 12 mins he would have had to wait for the win.

Avatar of Preggo_Basashi

This might help a lot of cases.

But people who make an effort to be rude will find ways around it... for example they will stay and click "no" but wont move anyway.

And for other rude people, this will give them a way to annoy an opponent who has obviously not left the game. They could click this just to make a message pop up on their opponent's screen as a disturbance.

 

But still, maybe this would be a good feature for chess.com to have.

Avatar of JayeshSinhaChess

Well if someone sticks around to keep pressing no, then it is the same has him taking a long think about the game, and thinking. So that shouldnt be a problem.

 

Of course there must be a limit to the number of times this 'claim win' option can be used to prevent abuse. So if you click it once perhaps there should be a three min freeze before it can be invoked again.

Avatar of wanmokewan

And if I'm taking a long time to think, that message could be a distraction.  If my opponent wants to just give me the win, yay for me.  I can entertain myself while I wait.  Back when I played, I'd factor in the time.  Did I have enough time to play the full limit?  If no, I wouldn't play.

Avatar of JayeshSinhaChess

If you are taking too long to think even a draw offer could be a distraction. Is that reason enough to remove the option to offer draws?

Avatar of Pulpofeira

Obviously it's more urgent to remove the option of wives phone calling because "what the heck are you doing, haven't you seen my messages?"

Avatar of Pikelemi
JayeshSinhaChess wrote:

If you are taking too long to think even a draw offer could be a distraction. Is that reason enough to remove the option to offer draws?

 

But if you  "taking too long to think" it means you lost on time so no need for draw offers here. 

Avatar of wanmokewan
JayeshSinhaChess wrote:

If you are taking too long to think even a draw offer could be a distraction. Is that reason enough to remove the option to offer draws?

A draw offer is not something I have to respond to; it's automatically declined if I make a move.  What you're proposing is something I have to respond to, thus interrupting my train of thought.  I'd also like to point out that I'm playing devil's advocate.  I don't approve or disapprove of your idea.

Avatar of JayeshSinhaChess

I think needing to confirm every minute that you are playing and active, is an annoyance and I see why it was removed.

 

However I feel the option to let the opponent check that you are active after 3 minutes or so of not making a move will help resolve the abandonment issue to some extent.

Avatar of VikrantPlaysD4

Maybe chess.com can end the game if one player takes a Long time, while also making sure that he is dead lost.

Avatar of VikrantPlaysD4

A computer can scan the board. 

Avatar of JayeshSinhaChess

No as long as a player is active, even in a totally lost position he has a right to play on. If nothing else, the opponent could blunder. The only way of a forfeit should be if the other player has run away.

Avatar of MainframeSupertasker

"Game abandoned" is an existing solution that is in live chess.

I don't get this. Does this still really happen?