Advice for dealing with tilt.

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ricorat

Hello everyone recently I’ve been pretty tilted and I’ve been blundering simple things. Does anyone have any advice?

ninjaswat

Yes break

ricorat

Yes I probably should take a break from chess. I’ve been playing pretty much nonstop for the last year and a half

Kadenstarr
ricorat wrote:

Yes I probably should take a break from chess. I’ve been playing pretty much nonstop for the last year and a half

Yes

 

i took a 3day break from chess after my blitz danced from 1570 to 1420 for a bit

 

now it is more stable and got the rating back ish

Platypus

spam till yu go bak

Kadenstarr

..

ricorat
horselover123 wrote:
ricorat wrote:

Yes I probably should take a break from chess. I’ve been playing pretty much nonstop for the last year and a half

no matter what you do don't take a break longer than 1 week or else you will come back and tilt more unless you're stronger than me (u probably are lmao)

As you can see, my advice sucks but

Yeah I’m probably only going to take 3-5 days off from chess.

ricorat
GBTGBA wrote:

I’m trying hard to get back to 1500 in hyperbullet. I don’t even enjoy playing it anymore. But I’m obsessed with getting back to 1500. I will retire again after I reach 1500. I’m praying it will happen today. So my tip is set a goal for yourself to keep going. Once you have reached the goal retire if you want or keep going to continue the never ending cycle of tilting.

So basically all I have to do is get to NM then retire from chess. 

ricorat
DigitalWarfare wrote:

Study some performance/sports psychology. A lot of what applies to the mental game of poker applies here, as well. 

That’s a really good idea that I have never thought of!

KeSetoKaiba

There are a lot of inspirational messages as well as techniques for dealing with tilt; however, I will caution that maybe only half of them are solid advice and of the half that is solid, perhaps only 10% or so actually get deep into resolving tilt from the root of the problem. 

Techniques like taking deep breaths or temporarily ending a session before tilting further are both good strategies, but they do NOT get to the root of the problem. If you begin to tilt, then taking deep breaths only helps suppress the tilt temporarily, but it doesn't go away. 

To fully eliminate tilt (or severely hinder its negative effects), you would have to figure out what reasons you tilt first and this is different for different people. Once you label some tilt "triggers" and what exactly it is that tilts you, only then can you being searching for a "treatment" to this "tilt diagnosis." 

Take chess for example. What "triggers" the tilt? It is different for different people, but it is NOT as simple as "I lost rating." Most people do not tilt after a single loss or even for a specific amount of rating lost; it is deeper than this...perhaps they tilt because they are mad at themselves for blundering their Queen. Hanging a Queen is what is triggering them to tilt because they are upset at their own mistake more than the loss. Similarly, someone else might tilt due to the "injustice" of the situation. Maybe their opponent is a pawn-pusher who doesn't follow opening principles, but "I study chess" and "deserve" to win! Guess what? "I" just lost by overlooking a mate in 1. Does this trigger tilt? For some it might and some it might not; in this case, it is the injustice of losing that is sparking the tilt. 

"Tilt" originally is a poker term (and also has a possible history involving pinball machines in arcades), so I'd recommend maybe finding some poker resources for dealing with tilt: even if you don't play poker yourself. Perhaps not every detail will be the same (for instance, poker has a certain element of chance in it [variance] that chess does not have), but tilt is tilt and perhaps you may find some good resources on how to deal with tilt this way.

quimvn
Don’t get mad
KeSetoKaiba

A great book if you do play poker seriously is Jonathan Little's book "Excelling At No-Limit Hold'em." In that book, there is a chapter dedicated specifically with dealing with tilt (chapter written by Jared Tendler) and there is another chapter addressing the "mental game" (chapter written by Patricia Cardner).

If you don't play poker, I wouldn't recommend buying this 500-page book just for around 30 pages talking about tilt, but this is a good option if you are serious about poker anyway. 

As for poker-related options with addressing tilt, there are free options as well. I suggest creating an account at the poker forum community cardschat.com - you can read the forums (or even post yourself) and get good feedback on long-term strategies to combat tilt. 

KeSetoKaiba
quimvn wrote:
Don’t get mad

Literally "easier said than done."

ricorat
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

A great book if you do play poker seriously is Jonathan Little's book "Excelling At No-Limit Hold'em." In that book, there is a chapter dedicated specifically with dealing with tilt (chapter written by Jared Tendler) and there is another chapter addressing the "mental game" (chapter written by Patricia Cardner).

If you don't play poker, I wouldn't recommend buying this 500-page book just for around 30 pages talking about tilt, but this is a good option if you are serious about poker anyway. 

As for poker-related options with addressing tilt, there are free options as well. I suggest creating an account at the poker forum community cardschat.com - you can read the forums (or even post yourself) and get good feedback on long-term strategies to combat tilt. 

Thank you so much for all the advice I really appreciate the fact that you wrote 2 long posts! I’m not a poker player but I will look in cardschat.com and I might be able to find a free copy of the poker book you recommend on the internet! As for tilt triggers I’ll have to see what triggers me while I’m playing and will try to fix that as well.

KeSetoKaiba

You can message me in the private chess.com messages too @ricorat and I can help you with discussions and techniques for dealing with tilt

ricorat
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

You can message me in the private chess.com messages too @ricorat and I can help you with discussions and techniques for dealing with tilt

Yes that would be great!

GNE1SENAU

Play unrated

KeSetoKaiba
royalknight101 wrote:

idk why this is a big deal, tilting will never stop even if you get better cause we all have bad days its just that i take the more realistic hard way.

Eliminating (or greatly minimizing) tilt will of course NOT prevent losing days. Any higher rated chess player knows first-hand of the ups and downs of the rating process, but the goal is so you don't tilt as a result of those down days. 

GNE1SENAU
KeSetoKaiba wrote: royalknight101 wrote:

idk why this is a big deal, tilting will never stop even if you get better cause we all have bad days its just that i take the more realistic hard way.

Eliminating (or greatly minimizing) tilt will of course NOT prevent losing days. Any higher rated chess player knows first-hand of the ups and downs of the rating process, but the goal is so you don't tilt as a result of those down days. 

Honestly I don't think tilt is a big deal either. If you lose a few games just stop playing, losing streaks are losing, why aren't we complaining about gaining like 100+ points in a day

GNE1SENAU
royalknight101 wrote:

oh really it doesnt mean you can control it, just look me i was 2179 over 2 months ago and tilted all the way down to 1820 and now am 2063 so really you cant really reduce it man. you can try to fight for some days, get some wins, losses, draws but then again its the same logic all over in the same cycle. all we can do is try our best to reduce losses but we cant control it nor do we even some power on if we even get streaks or massive rating loss

From a statistical point of view your day a game is not really affected by another game (unless you are tired) so chances are luck just didn't work out for you lmao