alekhine or capablanca? who is better?

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who is better at chess???
bong711

Capa of course! Capa is even contender for GOAT.

zembrianator

Alekhine obliterated all of his opponents in a drunken rage including Capablanca. He was so far ahead of his contemporaries that the Russians had him terminated because it was the only way they could dethrone him once they lost control of him and he refused to be used as a Soviet propaganda puppet

CONCHESSNESS

I agree with bong711. Alekhine beat Capablanca near the end of his career when he was ill. Capa has a family history of hypertension so let's keep that in mind. Since Capablanca is arguably considered one of the best World Champions while being sick is huge in my view to his favor. Also I don't know of any other player who went eight years without a single loss while not in a wartime era. They say he hated to study which one could conclude that if Bobby Fischer the hardest worker ever looks up to Capablanca as do many other champions and he didn't put in half the work they did than Jose Raul Capablanca may be the GOAT considering he naturally made the best moves off the top of his head with no serious preparation. Even Kasparov can't do that!

bong711

Alekhine was a great Champion. Capa was a GENIUS.

IMKeto

I have always been a fan of Capablanca.  But as far as who is better?  That's a personal choice, that will be broken down into the following:

The "tactical/aggressive" players will say Alekhine"

Everyone else will say Capablanca.

But i think what is important is to realize you can learn from both.

 

bong711

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1102104

It is Capa's greatest game and one of the 10 greatest game in chess history.

abcx123

I once read in a book that capablanca played 40 french topplayers blindfolded simultaneous and

won 35.

IMKeto

Capablanca going 8 years without losing a game? And only losing something like 24, 42, something like that  games in his entire career??

BL4D3RUNN3R

Today both of them wouldn‘t win a price in a decent Open nowadays. So what’s the fuzz all about?

bong711

What makes you sure? Capa and Alekhine would ignore Chessbase and Stockfish? They would use it ofc.

bong711
IMBacon wrote:

I have always been a fan of Capablanca.  But as far as who is better?  That's a personal choice, that will be broken down into the following:

The "tactical/aggressive" players will say Alekhine"

Everyone else will say Capablanca.

But i think what is important is to realize you can learn from both.

 

Capa's games are one of the most instructive. You can ignore other old chess greats games. But not Capablanca. Ask Karpov, Kasparov and other world champions.

CONCHESSNESS

I agree with bong711. Alekhine beat Capablanca near the end of his career when he was ill. Capa has a family history of hypertension so let's keep that in mind. Since Capablanca is arguably considered one of the best World Champions while being sick is huge in my view to his favor. Also I don't know of any other player who went eight years without a single loss while not in a wartime era. They say he hated to study which one could conclude that if Bobby Fischer the hardest worker ever looks up to Capablanca as do many other champions and he didn't put in half the work they did than Jose Raul Capablanca may be the GOAT considering he naturally made the best moves off the top of his head with no serious preparation. Even Kasparov can't do that!

CONCHESSNESS

 

BlackKaweah
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

bong711 wrote:

 

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1102104

It is Capa's greatest game and one of the 10 greatest game in chess history.

 

Yes I agree with above, the biggest travesty was Alekhine's chosen defence against Bogolyubov was simply a pure avoidance of Capablanca who was No.1 challenger based on his tournament records, for Alekhine he saw Bogolyubov as an easy defence and was sad to see and for the chess world to deny the world of the match everyone deserved to see!

 

Bogoljubow was one of the all time greats. He won some very strong tournaments. His games are quite remarkable. If you've never studied any of his games you should take a look at a few.

Lucas_Bomfim

Alekhine is the best player ever, along Karpov and Kasparov. Capablanca was the most boring chess champion ever, extremely overrated.

tygxc

Capablanca was the only chess genius.

tard645

Your mom is better

marqumax

Capablanca was the most talented of them all

marqumax

But he failed to work hard enough and so he doesn't deserve to be called better then Alekhine