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TheSonics

Hi

I was looking to add some opening like Reti, Scandi, Jobava London, or something that aims to take away the opponent from known territory...

As an e4, e5, (+nimzo) player, I feel really comfortable in middle games that arise from the openings I know, I have a feel for the position... When I try to play d4 stuff my opponents normally play very positionally, slow, and I'm not great at that.

I basically want an opening to try out that dosen't require study, that you can just get the hang of and play but guaranteeing an open and dynamic game.

Also when I try the Scandi (which gets open) or d4 (which gets positional) I don't have a feel for the middle games...

I'm sure there are better openings to fit what I'm aiming for so please suggest happy.png

Thx 

TheSonics

Thanks man!

I do play the Italian. I consider it theory heavy, and I do know some stuff... honestly I'm looking for an opening that I can mess around with, for starts...

For example; I play my friend who is 1200, I am not challenged to play Italian and e5 world against him, and I want to be challenged to enjoy the game... If I play my absolute best openings and then try hard in the middle game I would beat him probably 90%...

Also I want him to keep wanting to play with me lol

But every time I try to play Scandi or some opening I'm not familiar with he actually does really well... positionally - we are pretty much at the same level, funnily enough.

I'm inspired by players who play weird stuff to take people out of book, but I don't want to end up with closed positions... Also what would be the move order in Jobava to somehow make d5 and closing the game up more difficult?

Thx

TheSonics
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

U will have to play against d5 but u can try the lines where u play f3 and e4

Ah yes I've seen this. Kmoch is it called? A guy on twitch I like plays that... FM Lefong who invented "the lefong" premove techinque grin.png lol

But is that just not an anti Nimzo sideline?

Is there no avoiding the QGD Exchange?..

I mean how do you play f3 e4 ideas if Black goes d5?

D2rkz
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

U will have to play against d5 but u can try the lines where u play f3 and e4

I agree.

TheSonics

nvm I was looking in a wrong database... It seemed after d5 f3 is extremely dubious but now I fixed the database I'm looking at and there are plenty of games... I know it's a proper way to play against Black goes Nimzo, that's what I tried to say

AngryPuffer

you are 1500 nobody knows theory at your level lmao

TheSonics
AngryPuffer wrote:

you are 1500 nobody knows theory at your level lmao

first off this is a casual account I play 10+0 here

I peaked at 1900 lichess or around 1650 here (serious, with increment)...

And I'm not claiming I know theory, but I am aware of my strength and weaknesses... I have good memory and feel for the openings..

positionally, and most importantly, in critical moments later in the game I'm not as stable at all...

And you are basically right that at my level no one knows theory that's why I get crushing positions out of the opening most games... a GM friend confirmed I have unusually good opening knowledge compared to my actual level... I'm not proud of it, on the contrary..

I want to find a new type of opening to challenge myself to play more fresh and weird positions...

Obviously if I would play rated with increment I stick to my main stuff...

And let's play training games @AngryPuffer

AngryPuffer

sure i have some time now message me

TheSonics

there is a specific reason I want to challenge myself when playing lower rated players and casual games... It feels ridiculous to throw crushing lines at them like what am I afraid of? If I can't beat them positionally how can I beat players who force closed positions and slow games on me who are actually better than me?

but on second thought maybe I can stick to the exact same openings I play but choose to deviate sooner or play like the d3 Italian instead of c3-d4... just go for ideas I know exist but that I didn't study that way I will not be playing memorized but still maybe retain the feel...

And like you say work on middle games, endings, and calculation in general

TheSonics
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

If u really want to practice closed positions, play the king's Indian attack as white and see how u do. Just play it against everything except e5. Regarding ur second thought, i think that's the best approach. U shouldn't change something that u know well because years of experience is invaluable

Yes but tell me , as a strong player to a more beginner..

When you play people around 400 lower rated than you (when they can still beat you if you really sleep on it, but they could never beat you if you really try your hardest)

do you play your strongest opening, or like to experiment? Or would you deviate from book sooner to challenge yourself to play a fresher position? Or do you just play the same against everyone?

Because maybe it's actually a psychological problem that I don't enjoy converting +4 positions because I'm "afraid" to be embaressed by the weaker players who hang on and then I may blunder because of lack of concentration...

it's all a bit silly tbh.. but there is something about me that I can't be very competitive against lower rated players I want them to have fun too... and then they sometimes embarrass me haha