any other games where luck not involved apart from chess??

can anybody think of any other games where no luck is involved? Or is luck needed in chess, after all? 

Isn't it luck if your opponent makes a blunder?

 not sure; surely a ball can sometimes fly off at an unusual angle.

 yes, fair point but no external factor beyond the players in involved..so in that sense luck not involved. 

Checkers, chinese checkers, tic-tac-toe, go, pente, othello, mancala....

Blunders are a function of skill, or lack thereof. 

What about if a single game is played and the color of the pieces choosen is random.  Isn't the random choosing of pieces luck?  My hypothetical question has always been, if both players play every best possible move, can white force a win?  If the answer is yes, than in this theorectical scenario, whomever was randomly choosend as white indeed only wins because of the luck of the draw...

So, isn't it lucky if you happen to play an opponent that is not as good as  you are?  Or, conversely, if a worse player beats a better player, doesn't that mean that the worse player got somehow lucky that the better player didn't play his best game?

I don't really think of opponent selection as a part of "chess" as a game.  It's not in the rules anywhere....  The game commences once both players are ready to play from the starting position.

If a worse player beats a better player it just means that the worse player was better than the better player for that game.

Agreed.  An individual specific game does not involve the luck of the draw once the players have been seated.  However, it might be said that in the "game" of chess (in the larger scope of the word), for example, the way a tournament draw is set up could favor one player over others due to the "luck" of the tourney set-up.

Yes, I'd say that's a fair statement, but in my mind that speaks to an element of luck that is pervasive in tournaments in general (in fact, the match-up process is generally pretty standard and publicized, so the luck is a function of who enters the tournament more than it is how people get matched up).

Shogi, Lines of action, Amazons, Xiangqi, Hex, Havannah, Dvonn, Hive

In chess, when an opponent plays right into my preparation, I always feel a bit lucky.

Khet.

Strange as it might look to you at first, poker and backgammon are not games of luck. If more games are played, the better player will prevail.

I'd say those are games where skill can become a much bigger factor than the elements of luck that are present -- they're not completely devoid of luck though.

Anything where you haev complete control over what happens on your turn(and likewise for all other players will be non luck based.