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Anyone else sick of hearing about alpha?
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Dec 23, 2017
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#4
Their research wasn’t intended to solve chess, it was to develop AI, and chess was just one milestone on their journey to victory.
Dec 23, 2017
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#5
i just avoid those dumb threads, computers should be banned from playing.
Yeah, that's why I switched to games that haven't been contaminated by computers yet.
If you get tired of alpha and normal chess then join us at the variants thread.
Dec 23, 2017
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#7
ScootaChess wrote:
Seriously people trying to make a machine to "solve" chess and suck all the fun out of it...just to play God and stroke their own egos?
I mean... let's be honest... Alpha does make the gameplay a little more interesting, as well as some moves do make more sense. It brings me back to the days of studying Anderssen or Morphy... And I worked with a friend who made me just want to sac everything after working with him.
Dec 23, 2017
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#8
chiefeggplant wrote:
I am going to wait until BetaZero comes out, it will still have some bugs but at least it will be more stable.
I mean if it's god... I think you'd want to wait for OmegaZero...
ScootaChess wrote:
Seriously people trying to make a machine to "solve" chess and suck all the fun out of it...just to play God and stroke their own egos?
It's not all about chess. Chess is nothing more than a test subject. A starting point for solving bigger problems than chess. This is how computer science works. reduce a problem in such a way so that you can solve it and then apply a generalized solution to other areas.
I suppose draughts was a test subject as well. The computer boffins managed to kill that game stone dead. Why can't they write programmes designed to invent a game that's better than chess? Now that would be interesting.
Dec 24, 2017
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#12
I find it mildly interesting from an AI perspective. At my age and level of play it will never be a concern as far as chess. I'm sure of one thing, however; there are implications nobody has seen that will emerge from this.
pq4 wrote:
I suppose draughts was a test subject as well. The computer boffins managed to kill that game stone dead. Why can't they write programmes designed to invent a game that's better than chess? Now that would be interesting.
That wouldn't be useful at all unless you want to achieve something specific.
Google didn't created AlphaZero just for fun they do it because algorithms you use for chess can be generalized for more relevant problems. What you will find a long the journey will not only be useful for chess but for humanity itself.
Chess is just a good test subject.
Dec 24, 2017
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#14
Goram wrote:
Dude is a millionaire, with a whole chess playing community fawning over him.
Vickalan, what variant is that anyway? :P
Dec 24, 2017
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#16
Alpha will be dead once the "Beta" test version of the next machine comes out!
Dec 24, 2017
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#17
creators of alpha wanted to get their machine in the news and the only way to do that was to cheat against stockfish.
Dec 24, 2017
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#18
stuzzicadenti wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
creators of alpha wanted to get their machine in the news and the only way to do that was to cheat against stockfish.
Deep Blue also cheated against Kasparov.
IBM and Google playing the same game.
How did deep blue cheat v Kasparov?
Dec 24, 2017
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#19
ScootaChess wrote:
Seriously people trying to make a machine to "solve" chess and suck all the fun out of it...just to play God and stroke their own egos?
I agree. Engines are a big waste of time and effort. Just go play chess.
Seriously people trying to make a machine to "solve" chess and suck all the fun out of it...just to play God and stroke their own egos?