Are bullet and blitz chess real chess ?

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Halimede wrote:
dpnorman wrote:

Not even slightly. Real chess is where you sit down with 2hours on your clock plus an SD 30 time control after the 40th move, and you sit down and take five hours and think about your moves. Bullet chess is where both sides premove stupid blunders over and over until eventually one side takes advantage of one of the blunders and wins.

dpnorman, you don't know the first thing about real chess. That's why ALL of your ratings are under 1800! I could literally take 2 minutes and give you ANY amount of time you want, and win every game easily. So if bullet chess isn't "real", then how would I be able to do that?

What you mean to say is YOUR CHESS isn't real. This isn't the fault of bullet chess. This is due to the limitations of YOUR brain!

Of course bullet is chess, but when youre playing a form of chess and down 5 pieces, and win by .1 of a second?  Yea its chess, but its not chess.

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True chess is indeed those 2 hour time limits for each players. Bullet and Blitz chess is just a form of chess that is slightly quicker with more blunders.

I would say though, from 10 minute time limits and on the chess games begin to increase in quality.

Avatar of KirbyCake

unless chess rules are somehow different just because you're playing blitz/bullet, then obviously it is chess.

Avatar of adumbrate

Training bullet makes your blitz better.

Training blitz makes your long time games better.

Long time games makes your bullet and blitz better.

See how it goes? Mix in with other stuff and you will improve a lot

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Halimede, I like how you took the lowest of all my ratings and said that was my skill. I am 1839. That is my rating. Not 1530. Is 1839 a good rating? Meh, not really. But I still think I would be able to beat you with those time odds, and your telling me that someone else made a similar challenge in the past and failed doesn't mean anything because that player is not me. In any case, chess and intelligence are not directly correlated- my father is a disaster at chess but he is much smarter than I am, for example.

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dpnorman wrote:

Halimede, I like how you took the lowest of all my ratings and said that was my skill. I am 1839. That is my rating. Not 1530. Is 1839 a good rating? Meh, not really. But I still think I would be able to beat you with those time odds, and your telling me that someone else made a similar challenge in the past and failed doesn't mean anything because that player is not me. In any case, chess and intelligence are not directly correlated- my father is a disaster at chess but he is much smarter than I am, for example.

just warning you that time odds is not really a big advantage.

at nationals i've spent only 15 minutes while my 2100 rated opponents used the entire 90 minutes and i still smashed them.

i actually could have used less time, i just used more time at the end to secure the win.

Avatar of ChessDoofus

True, but 2 hrs vs 2 minutes I think I could win against a 2100. That's a bit much in the way of time odds for me to lose.

Avatar of I_Am_Second

A rating is a number, it isnt who or what you are.  Way to much emphasis on a number, halimede

Avatar of mandras88

Yes. But they sound annoying when you have a bad internet connection.

Avatar of millionairesdaughter

Bullet chess is the equivalent of two boxers standing next to each other rapidly punching each others face in, so no, it's not real chess anymore than that would be real boxing.

Avatar of ProfessorProfesesen

Its Ultimate Fighting....

Avatar of millionairesdaughter

excuse me, I wandered onto the wrong thread. this one seems to be for noobs.

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It's not true because its a freakin joke.

Avatar of kleelof

If different time controls were food:

Correspondence chess (AKA Online Chess here) 

Meant to be savored and enjoyed slowly to ensure you get the full pleasure.

Long time controls:

Very flavorable and filling and meant to be eaten before it gets cold.

 

Blitz:

Down one, move on to the next. No need to even consider or enjoy each piece.

Avatar of millionairesdaughter

Don't forget to beat your chest and gulp down that banana einstein.

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Halimede wrote:
kleelof wrote:

If different time controls were food:

Correspondence chess (AKA Online Chess here) 

 

Meant to be savored and enjoyed slowly to ensure you get the full pleasure.

Long time controls:

 

Very flavorable and filling and meant to be eaten before it gets cold.

 

Blitz:

 

Down one, move on to the next. No need to even consider or enjoy each piece.

Why can't you morons comprehend the simple fact that just because YOU suck at speed chess and are too dumb to be able to develop skill at it....this doesn't apply to everyone. You are 857 rated! This reveals that you are not only slow, but feeble-minded as well. There is a universe of skill to bullet chess, which is why the best players in the world at slow chess are also the best at bullet. If it was such a meaningless luckfest that you want to believe it is, this wouldn't be the case, but it is.

 Ironically you also suck at slower time controls. Chess is an intelligence game. Unintelligent people like you will never be able to play it at a reasonable level. It doesn't matter how much time you are given.

Yeah, I supposed if I played people 200 - 300 points lower than me I would have a higher rating too. 

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Halimede wrote:
millionairesdaughter wrote:

It's not true because its a freakin joke.

No, you're the noob here. You're also a joke! You're only 1800 rated, lol. I don't know if you realize this or not, but 1800 sucks! Get a grip!

Yeah, your rating and 10 cents still won't give you enough to call someone who cares.

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Halimede wrote:
kleelof wrote:
Halimede wrote:
kleelof wrote:

If different time controls were food:

Correspondence chess (AKA Online Chess here) 

 

Meant to be savored and enjoyed slowly to ensure you get the full pleasure.

Long time controls:

 

Very flavorable and filling and meant to be eaten before it gets cold.

 

Blitz:

 

Down one, move on to the next. No need to even consider or enjoy each piece.

Why can't you morons comprehend the simple fact that just because YOU suck at speed chess and are too dumb to be able to develop skill at it....this doesn't apply to everyone. You are 857 rated! This reveals that you are not only slow, but feeble-minded as well. There is a universe of skill to bullet chess, which is why the best players in the world at slow chess are also the best at bullet. If it was such a meaningless luckfest that you want to believe it is, this wouldn't be the case, but it is.

 Ironically you also suck at slower time controls. Chess is an intelligence game. Unintelligent people like you will never be able to play it at a reasonable level. It doesn't matter how much time you are given.

Yeah, I supposed if I played people 200 - 300 points lower than me I would have a higher rating too. 

Lol, you just keep on providing more and more evidence of the fact that you're a low IQ IMBECILE! Keep it up! This is entertaining. Ok retard, i'll break it down for you and talk to you like I would a five year old. Hopefully you'll be able to understand.

When someone is new to a chess server, they are fitted with a default rating. This default rating is low, low like your low iq. You aren't going to get games with significantly higher rated players until your rating starts to catch up to your actual level. What you are suggesting couldn't be further from the truth. I actually filter out requests from players under 1900 and have no upper filter. I try to get games with the strongest opponents possible. I'm sorry that you are too dense and dumb to figure out these simple facts on your own.

But I guess I shouldn't expect anything different from someone who is too stupid to get his rating over 1000. You're only 857. You can't even make this stuff up.

These are the last few games of your 300 or so games you have played.

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Halimede wrote:
kleelof wrote:
Halimede wrote:
millionairesdaughter wrote:

It's not true because its a freakin joke.

No, you're the noob here. You're also a joke! You're only 1800 rated, lol. I don't know if you realize this or not, but 1800 sucks! Get a grip!

Yeah, your rating and 10 cents still won't give you enough to call someone who cares.

Trust me kid, I have a lot more people who care about me than you do about you. Even your parents are ashamed of you. You're a whining lackey loser with no talent for anything. Enjoy your future at the call center!

Well, I know one person who loves me. BTW, how IS your mother?

She's pretty good to tell you the truth.

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Most real chess players consider classic/slow  tournament chess to be real chess with bullet , blitz and other forms being chess variants . Online ratings arent reliable for many reasons , especially compared to OTB ratings .