chess players are athletes. The amount of physical strain we put on our bodies by doing nothing for several hours...
We can get tired by not even doing anything. Sports players get tired from doing something. Clearly chess players are superior athletes - they can accomplish more (getting tired) by doing less (sitting)
I think they can be considered athletes. Studies show that people who play intense chess matches tend to lose a lot of energy and calories during the match as their brain is as focused and needs as much glucose as required by any other runner or swimmer in a competition.
equating this mental effort with starving or being terminally ill is pathetic.
I think they can be considered athletes. Studies show that people who play intense chess matches tend to lose a lot of energy and calories during the match as their brain is as focused and needs as much glucose as required by any other runner or swimmer in a competition.
equating this mental effort with starving or being terminally ill is pathetic.
When did he do that?
I think they can be considered athletes. Studies show that people who play intense chess matches tend to lose a lot of energy and calories during the match as their brain is as focused and needs as much glucose as required by any other runner or swimmer in a competition.
People who are on hunger strike in prisons and people with cancer or bronchial pneumonia tend to lose weight too. Lots and lots of it. So they're all athletes and it all makes sense.
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Does that mean technical knockout misquoted? Because parito didn't say that lol
Yes kinda right. For example Magnus carlsen.
He like football, badminton etc. But he is playing chess too.
dont forget poker
I think they can be considered athletes. Studies show that people who play intense chess matches tend to lose a lot of energy and calories during the match as their brain is as focused and needs as much glucose as required by any other runner or swimmer in a competition.
A person can burn hundreds of calories by just sitting, for hours, while thinking about nothing at all ...
But that doesn't mean that mindless sitting = athleticism ...
So if online chess is an e-sport and therefore they are e-athletes, otb chess issss a boardgame? And therefore boardgamers?
Yes, like an esports athlete. IMO
competitive chess as a sporting endeavor is an immense struggle of wills, magnified by decision-making stress, nerves & constant clock pressure:
severe time control scrambles feature an additional (physical) element: the necessity of proper eye-hand coordination when inputting one's moves, similar to what is required in other e-sports such as 'starcraft';
besides which, there are several notable chess streamers which have been actively recruited into e-sports organizations in the recent past, as i recall.
if golf, archery & shooting enthusiasts can be regarded athletes, with such minimal physical exertion involved, i don't consider it much of a stretch to pay chess players the same courtesy:
my personal definition of sport is more along the lines of 'a non-violent, hard-fought battle to the bitter end between trained combatants' anyways... but chess definitely fits that description in my book.
in the information age online sporting contests are common, but does it really matter if chess is played mostly in your mind? is your brain not a physical organ expending plenty of energy during a match?
i rather find that it makes for a more pure & interesting fight between personalities. 🙂
yes ..i play football (real one)
and i used to go to gym
and i feel like being in good physical shape helps our brain
Can be, that some people focus only on chess. But, most of them are athletes also.
if golf, archery & shooting enthusiasts can be regarded athletes, with such minimal physical exertion involved>>
Minimal physical exertion involved in archery? You really don't know what you're talking about, you know. Shooting, fine, but giving incorrect examples like archery shows you aren't thinking too well.
The physical demands of shooting requite minimizing physical elements. Breathe. Squeeze. If you think that’s easy, you should try it.
yes, they are athletes be it cyber athletes or whatever you want to call it. They are using exercised skills and burning calories. Chess players sometimes wind up in the hospital after tournaments too to disperse any doubts lol. Take Karpov, or Gotham Chess. Its not uncommon. Mental or physical strain, its all connected.
Don't any and all human activities involving living people require burning calories? Does this mean that literally anything any living person does (including nothing) elevate the person to athlete? I guess that also means everyone is literally born an athlete. And remain athletes until their last dying breath. It's almost, sorta, like diluting the meaning of athlete just a bit.
I do like the term cyber athlete though. It sounds like one of those made up terms they use now to declare everyone a winner.
just because e-sports is a thing does not mean e-athletes are a thing
Adding on, sports could be considered luck based because calls on fouls are subjective. You ever watch a sport, and the referee doesn’t call something that’s TOTALLY a foul? Yeah.
I play golf, swim, and hike, which are athletic. So I am a chess player who is also an athlete.
when's your next hiking tournament? 😆
Yes kinda right. For example Magnus carlsen.
He like football, badminton etc. But he is playing chess too.
dont forget poker
I don't consider poker a sport because it has elements of luck.
All sports contain elements of luck. The ball can hit the corner of the goal post and rebound for a goal kick, or the referee can wrongly think it was a corner. There's a myriad of ways that luck plays a very real part in all sports. Including even the sport of buying stamps in philatelic auctions, which really drains the calories and can burn you out. Not to mention loading the boxes in your car.
Of all the reasons chess is not a sport, this is probably one of the main ones ALL sports contain elements of luck, no exceptions. But chess doesn't contain the kind of luck (or any luck really) that sports have. There is no bouncing ball, no gust of wind, no playing field imperfections, etc.
The reasons people give for luck in chess don't seem to apply much to computers playing each other. But most of the elements of luck in sports would apply just as equally whether it's two humans playing or two robots playing.
And I would have to agree, buying stamps would have to be more of a sport than chess.
I play golf, swim, and hike, which are athletic. So I am a chess player who is also an athlete.
when's your next hiking tournament? 😆
There are several hiking tournaments in Oregon, but I've never participated in one. I've never participated in a swimming tournament either. I'm not sure what that has to do with being an athlete. Someone can be an athlete and still participate in other things that are not athletic.
the primary characteristic of a 'sport' is an element of competition:
this thread isn't about luck vs. skill lol.
intentionally starving, exercising your brain & being sick are 3 different things.
Three different athletic events, apparently.