Are you supposed to accept a rematch offer on live chess?

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Diakonia
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:

I will give you a chess metaphor to describe what you are doing.

Basically my agrument was like a forced mate in 8.

That's a simile. Your jellyfish is a metaphor.

 

Your jellyfish is also your best idea. I have embraced it even though it's an error. I've explained in numerous posts the main reasons why I decline most rematches. You have written thirteen times as many words (yes, I counted) without seriously engaging any of my points.

Yes you are right for once. It is a simile.

As for why you decline matches. I will admit. I didn't pay enough attention to hear why you decline matches.

I will say " If  the reason you decline matches involve something to do with not allowing your opponent to have a revenge match, not allowing your opponents ego to get boosted, or avoiding a dull game."

Than I am afraid you will be classified as a Jelly Fish.

Jelly fish unite!

X_PLAYER_J_X
Scratchifier wrote:

Lol okay so I shouldn't pick that one apart as well?

Your "argument" is an insult. When I say something which you disagree with, you try and find a flaw and then name a bigger insult.

Writing doesn't matter to this conversation - fine - even if it's extremely painful to read. But guess what else doesn't matter to this conversation?

Hmm...

Jellyfish.

The problem for you is that I'm playing within chess guidelines. In tournaments, are you required to play somebody who you beat another time after it's finished just because they asked? I rather keep my strategy to myself so that it isn't cake to beat me next time!

As for running down the clock in a lost position... if somebody can't reasonably checkmate me in the time allotted, why should I resign before I win on time just to be nice? For the same reason that grandmasters don't quit after losing two pawns, I don't just let the other person have my rating points if I'm a queen down but ahead on time. Just like I blundered, my opponent could blunder as well.

Sorry, but I will not be complying with rule number jellyfish in the official rulebook of chess.

This is the saddest post I have ever read.

Scratchifier you are right.

Chess guidelines do not require you to play the same person again.

Chess guidelines do not require you to resign.

Chess guidelines do not prevent you from letting your timer running out on purpose.

Chess guidelines do not require you to shake your opponents hand in kind-ness.

Chess guidelines do not require you to tell your opponent good game.


You see the chess guidelines were written to give you a brief guide on how to play the game of chess. They did not touch on all the above points simply because the game is not human. You on the other hand are human.

The person writing the guide did not need to tell you to be nice to your opponent. The person writing the guide thought you would have enough humanity, morals, and ethics to realize that on your own.

It brings a tear to my eyes reading your post. You need someone to write in text a guide which tells you to shake your opponents hand after the game. It really is sad.

You have allowed a guide to rob you of your humanity. Why?

You do not have to be this machine with no humanity.

You can be a better person.

You do not have to let your timer run out on purpose in a lost position.

I do not believe that mean and hateful person is you.

You are much better.

You are a wonderful person.

You are kind.

Every game you play will be an Immortal game. Even if no one esle was there to see it.

Your chess attitude and gamesmanship shall inspire others to play chess.

That is the person I believe you to be.

Am I wrong?

Diakonia

Is it written anywhere that a rematch is a requirement?

No? Didnt think so.  Case Closed.

thegreat_patzer

That was the emotional plea :)

let me say it this way Xplayer... I've watched you battle for two LONG days over the whole jellyfish thing.  its simply not NICE to call a perfect stranger a jellyfish.  I read, in detail, your long explanation about it...

but I just come back to the same idea-- you do not KNOW why they decline matches, you think it is personal when it might well not be.

I get that everyone agrees that there's not Basic agreement to rematch- and there really isn't a the need to rematch for courtesy sake.

I'm a very courteous and polite person.  I'll even say I'm sorry when I win.  but I may very well decide NOT to rematch.  winning is the point of chess.   some kind of macho game between 2 "alpha" males is NOT the point of chess.  there's no need to feel the need for "revenge"

assuming that is a basic right- and calling people jellyfish when they don't agree with you ... is... 

sigh. now MY post is too long.  apologies for ziryab; please don't rip my grammar apart.  I know it hurts the eyes.  this thread has gotten ridiculously long.  I have a knack for closing threads.  are we done?  

thegreat_patzer
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PossibleOatmeal

Not reading the 16 pages of this thread because it's not necessary.  The answer to the thread title question is as follows:

Yes, you are supposed to accept a rematch offer in live chess if you want to play another game with the same opponent.  If you do not wish to do this, you should not accept the rematch offer.

In other words, it is completely voluntary and you are not beholden to play two or more games with any one opponent unless you have agreed to this ahead of time.  It is neither polite nor impolite to accept or reject a rematch request.  It is simply a matter of preference and sometimes necessity due to outside circumstances.

Any further discussion on the topic is completely superfluous.

Diakonia
PossibleOatmeal wrote:

Not reading the 16 pages of this thread because it's not necessary.  The answer to the thread title question is as follows:

Yes, you are supposed to accept a rematch offer in live chess if you want to play another game with the same opponent.  If you do not wish to do this, you should not accept the rematch offer.

In other words, it is completely voluntary and you are not beholden to play two or more games with any one opponent unless you have agreed to this ahead of time.  It is neither polite nor impolite to accept or reject a rematch request.  It is simply a matter of preference and sometimes necessity due to outside circumstances.

Any further discussion on the topic is completely superfluous.

But...but...what about my ego?  What about my manliness? What about saving face? What about getting even? What abut getting what i want? What about chess being a battle to the death?

Even a simple starfish is ok with hanging out with the jellyfish.  If its good enough for Patrick, its good enough for me.

 

thegreat_patzer

now here.

your just egging him on.  you AREN'T a nice man- are you!

Diakonia
thegreat_patzer wrote:

now here.

your just egging him on.  you AREN'T a nice man- are you!

 

Actually not at all.  Im just having some fun with this rediculously long thread, revolving around a rediculous assumption.  

Rediculously Yours,

Mike

Ziryab

I declined a rematch for personal reasons today. It was a one minute game. My opponent tried to win a lost position on time. He also had a full ten seconds of lag. TEN seconds of lag in a SIXTY second game!

Blocking is my preferred response to such players. Rematches are out of the question.

Diakonia

Accept/Offer a rematch and you too can be like Brock Lesner carrying a shark.

Diakonia

Not offer/Decline a rematch and this is you

thegreat_patzer

Keep it real - There are kids watching this thread!

Diakonia
thegreat_patzer wrote:

Keep it real - There are kids watching this thread!

 

Is Brock Lesnor carrying a shark pushing the envelope?

Nkulele

I never accept a rematch offer and I never offer a rematch - that´s my point of view.

YankeWang

its your choice

James1011James1011

You don't HAVE to accept rematches, but I feel that it would be nicer if you did.

Ziryab

Be nice. Accept a rematch as long as you have time, your opponent resigned at the appropriate moment, you are tolerant of the garbage opening that your opponent employed, there was no rude taunting, you enjoy beating up on those who drop pieces, you have not yet reached your blitz limit for the day, your mother has not yet called you to dinner, it's not past your bedtime, you are reasonably sober, and you want to play the same opponent again. Otherwise, reject the offer.

James1011James1011

Block that motherf**ker!

vinniethepooh
Skeleize wrote:

people who send rematch requests are the ones who just lost the game (and may be a bit higher rated) They do that for revenge    

It is nothing like that....Infact if you win against someone higher rated than you then you will offer a rematch thinking that you will win....Or maybe even when there is a bit lower rated and he looks quite easy...then you can offer a rematch in hope of making rating...I don't believe Skeleize... this topic is senseless and if you don't want a match just ignore it....your opponent doesn't know your home and won't come with all guns blazing...CoolTruly no need of discussion here...