Arrogant people.

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apjoshua
What’s with some players who scorn you with a rubbish opening as if saying: I can beat you even with this. This happens when you beat them and they’re disappointed.

Particularly some IMs that play like wimps and get beaten and then they try to insult you with a haphazard opening. This ‘Fischer complex’ as I call it is just sad.

Because, yes you maybe a better player but because you act like a snobbish wet blanket, you show that you don’t respect the game.

Please respect the game of chess.
The game’s larger than our ballooning egos.
inkspirit
You’ve admitted that chess is, after all, a game. So what’s wrong with playing chess like it’s just a game? You play what you like and there is obviously no rule prohibiting so-called “rubbish” openings. Mind your own business, especially when you actually win the game and the other player is not insulting you with dirty words. If you lose against a dubious opening, you’d better spend your time improving your play, rather than complain about someone playing an opening you’re unable to beat.
apjoshua
You missed the point of the post. It’s about hubris that people exude when they intentionally play dubiously. And yeah, I revel in owning up people so consumed by their arrogance.

My short stay on Earth has taught me that verbal abuses are benign. It’s the silent imperiousness that’s malignant to the core :-)

Maybe your experience suggest otherwise.

Cheers.

ChessBooster

you shoul pass some examples along with your theory...

i remeber two decades ago one guy lost agains my friend on club championship, my friend as black, on 1.e2-e4 respond with 1. ... g7-g6 and with not active following moves followed by some pasive but strong position...., and then there was lots of insults about him, actually the way he played opening as black led white to loose game???

so, i ll tel you, anybody can play whatever he wants, ok?

if you play agains "normal" opening with no issues and if you lose game against things like 1. h2-h4 2. g2-g3 3. Rh1-h2 ....   than you should ask yourself what kind is your chess abilites at all, aren't all your chess games pre-arranged at all (Bobby Fischer!) ?

Laskersnephew

You are the victim of a delusion. You seem to think that people play unusual openings just to disrespect you, but this is just your swollen ego speaking. The fact is, they're not thinking about you at all! You are trying to make it all about you, but that's just nonsense.

LM_player
You cannot know someone’s intention just because they play a dubious opening. I sometimes play dubious openings simply because I don’t like the overplayed positions that arise from mainlines. I do NOT play them out of scorn for the other player. Generalizations like these are rude and unfair.

And this “silent imperiousness” you speak of is imaginary. You cannot read the mind of a player on the other side of the world. The only thing you can “feel” are the Chess moves being played. You do not know if they are praising you or wishing you death behind the screen. You can only feel someones emotions if they are in front of you (like in OTB). If there are no chat attacks, do not complain! For all you may know, they may have left the game feeling more positive than you did.

With all due respect,

-Lukay
Debistro

This happens all the time in fast online games. Even Magnus Carlsen and other super GMs play dubious openings just for fun, in online games. I come across players who play some lousy passive defense which is hard to crack in bullet and I know full well they play those dubious lines to frustrate and make their opponents lose on time. Take the opportunity to beat your opponent at their dubious openings if you can.

reyminos

The (misguided and maybe insane) psychological conclusions when someone plays ridiculous openings:

1. If I win, I show im better than my rival to such degree that even playing this much dubious opening I can kick his ass.

2. If I lose, It doesnt mean Im worse. I just played an inferior opening and it explains the defeat. I was close to a draw or even a win, so my defeat can be truely interpreted as a moral victory. Even better...It shows im clearly better than him because he couldnt smash me up accordingly.

apjoshua
Quite a lot of flak for writing this it seems! I’ll support this with a few examples. There’s this Ukranian IM (won’t name) who lost to me. Then he played very dubiously.

Now, there are offbeat moves that are solid. Then there are mainline moves that are dubious. I’m talking about a third category. The offbeat erroneous moves that violate every principle of chess but the principle of browbeating your opponent.

I don’t know. Maybe i’ve over-reacted by writing this post. Or perhaps everybody does it once in a while and is hence feeling implicated lol

Anyway, thanks for the responses.
congrandolor

You know, even Simon Williams have played the Tranvestite opening during a stream, and won! Just relax.

apjoshua
Chess is a very democratic game. You have the freedom to play anything unbridled, unfettered! Without having any qualms about it.

That however isn’t the case here.
Nickalispicalis71

I play an opening where I advance all the pawns one square. I win more games then I lose with it. It is not as easy to crash through as many would believe and a lot of people get impatient. I play it not to insult anyone. I would play it against a GM or someone that just learned the moves yesterday. 

apjoshua

I must however say that Lasker’s nephew inherited little courtesy from his uncle :-) 

oregonpatzer

The occasional perception of arrogance is the price of personal excellence.

apjoshua
OregonPatzer is right. Striving for excellence has the occasional risk of getting labelled as arrogant.

But we have people who strive for abomination lol by playing unsound chess.
Coffee_Player

I confess... Used to be arrogant OTB chess player until lost a few "totally won" games against much weaker opponents wink.png

Coffee_Player
PawnstormPossie wrote:

You may discover:

the serenity to accept the things you cannot change; courage to change the things you can; and wisdom to know the difference.

@PawnstormPossie - I feel miserable because of my lack of wisdom, not only in chess wink.png

bong711
apjoshua wrote:
What’s with some players who scorn you with a rubbish opening as if saying: I can beat you even with this. This happens when you beat them and they’re disappointed.

Particularly some IMs that play like wimps and get beaten and then they try to insult you with a haphazard opening. This ‘Fischer complex’ as I call it is just sad.

Because, yes you maybe a better player but because you act like a snobbish wet blanket, you show that you don’t respect the game.

Please respect the game of chess.
The game’s larger than our ballooning egos.

All players have the rights to play any openings... sound or unsound. I play unsound openings ... to practice my defensive skills. 

Coffee_Player
PawnstormPossie wrote:
Coffee_Player wrote:
PawnstormPossie wrote:

You may discover:

the serenity to accept the things you cannot change; courage to change the things you can; and wisdom to know the difference.

@PawnstormPossie - I feel miserable because of my lack of wisdom, not only in chess

Sometimes, a miserable failure is constantly trying to improve. There is a wisdom in that type of thinking also.

@PawnstormPossie - thanks, I feel better now wink.png

apjoshua
It seems most people have lost their ability to reason.

Playing dubiously because you want to vs playing dubiously to snub someone is completely different.

Apparently people are feeling complicit in this practice.