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>Since when does criticism = "obsessive hatred"?<
Oh, that's the latest trope in social networking idiocy. Any form of criticism is now branded as hatred, and if you suggest something is too expensive, or stupid, or ill-concevied, or unnecessary, you are now a "hater."
Isn't that special?
It's all I've got. Listen to the two of you ranting, man. Nobody is taking anything more away from what you guys have to say. We've all labeled you as haters in our minds because honest to god, that's what you've come off as. Nobody's listening anymore. None of this matters. If you want me to bring something to the table, here's something - and this is very important. Bringing somebody and their vision down is the easiest thing you can do. You can start huge comment threads over it, and you can try and make libelous claims about the individuals in question. If you want to make a difference in any kind of environment off of *somebody else's* project, the way to do that is respectfully. People's hard work, sweat and sleep must have gone into making this project a reality. Why do you think that you have the right to come and expect somebody else to change their vision because you seem to have some kind of problem with it? You can suggest changes, but nobody gives a hoot if all you're going to do is sit back and play armchair judge to somebody else's workIf you still feel really passionate about things, go ahead and start your own after school chess program or whatever it is you want to do. Be *for* something, you can spend your life being against things and that's all you'll be... a harbinger of negativity, and then nobody likes you anymore. Even if it's just an anonymous account on some (in the grand scheme of things)irrelevant chess website.
I dunno, the fact that people, including yourself, are still commenting indicates that people are still listening. And whoever indicated that they think they have the right to make Ashley/Lee change MC? That's just nonsense. When you do something publically, such as running a public chess tourney and kicking up a lot of publicity about it, you invite public commentary, including criticism (and there's been plenty of valid criticism of MC here). Too many people make the mistake of thinking that criticism = demanding something be taylored to the critic's whims.
Im all for valid criticism of MC. I know that they are too because they've said so many many times. But libelous defamatory nonsense that's being spewed here has no space in an actual discussion about an event.
To the critics, how has MC caused damage to chess. Imagine if MC chess never happened, would chess be in a different place today? I have followed this thread and the critics have stated their stance on their beliefs many times or should I say many many many many.... times. The critics have some valid points but to spew them out every few posts considering this thread has over 2700 posts seems like a sad way to live your life. I hope some of you get over the fact that no matter how many times you state your opinion that you are not going to convert the non believers of your arguments. The way I see it, it seems that some of you are on some sort of religious crusade that non believers must convert to your way of thinking or otherwise they are ignorant and of low intelligence. Move on and spend your time and energy into making chess popular with the masses, launch that free entry free, accomodation, free everything utopia chess project and made it successful then many of the unbelievers will convert to your way of thinking.
>Listen to the two of you ranting, man. <
I'ts not about us. Typical weakie approach is to divert the topic, which is the validity of MC chess, to its detractors. It's only been done about a thousand times on this thread already. Try something else.
>Even if it's just an anonymous account<
At least I'm only using one. How many do YOU need, bluesclues/siddyg/etc?
>The way I see it, it seems that some of you are on some sort of religious crusade<
Earth to Rubik - there are about four detractors on this board, compared to the dozens of yea-rah MC lovers. So who is on the crusade?
Interesting how the opinions of such a small minority can get you to write a long paragraph of hectoring nonsense that has nothing to do with MC, but everything to do with your own desire to moralize.
Move on and spend your time and energy into making chess popular with the masses, launch that free entry free, accomodation, free everything utopia chess project and made it successful then many of the unbelievers will convert to your way of thinking.
I'm not sure I've seen anybody actually state or imply that that type of thing is their way of thinking...
Athiest to maskedbishop, you just proved my point. Have you got an alarm that wakes you up whenever a new post appears on you beloved topic.
Please answer the main question on why MC is bad for chess, do a thought experiment and imagine if MC did not exist, how chess would be better?
Let me stretch my imagination in the other direction. MC is extremely successful. All other organizers emulate them. Prizes and , more importantly, entry fees soar. I am priced out of the market and relegated to playing only on-line chess forever.
I don't anticipate this happening, but it would be bad for those of us on limited incomes. Most tournament entrants go home with nothing but the experience, so large prize funds don't offset the increased entry fees.
In all seriousness, MC may have a chance at success by appealing to a small group of affluent players together with players who save for a few years to play in an MC Open once in a lifetime. MC just needs to figure out how to structure and market the tournaments.
You do realize that a little notification shows up on your home page whenever there's new posts in threads you're tracking (by default you track any thread you've posted in), yes?
I'm pretty sure this thread is gonna go down as the most commented on / viewed thread in Chess.com History! Amazing!
Thanks everyone for the honest opinions and feedback! And thanks for keeping it "on topic" and away from personal attacks...
Looks like a member started a new thread for Millionaire 2 here:
I'm going to lock this thread and urge further discussion that way...