At what elo are you no longer a bad player? - Chess Forums - Page 11

Cavatine

Jun 12, 2019

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#201

there is no elo which can prevent a person from doing something bad.

Ziryab

Jun 12, 2019

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#202

mariners234 wrote:

Savage47 wrote:

spartakbarnsley wrote:

Ziryab wrote:

I can checkmate with bishop and knight, but only if I’m sober and have at least five minutes on the clock.

tbh most players below master level can't convert that ending. I gave up on learning when I was about 16-1700. I can memorize the moves but it occurs so rarely that I forget when it comes up. Maybe I could learn it now but what's the point? It happens maybe once every couple thousand games and even then you usually have chances to trade into a better ending. I will trade into it if I'm trying to draw though and have yet to lose it.

If you understand the idea you don't have to memorize anything. It's actually pretty easy it's just most books / people who teach it are awful.

Memorize the letter W.

http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2017/05/bishop-and-knight-checkmate.html

mariners234

Jun 12, 2019

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#203

Ziryab wrote:

mariners234 wrote:

Savage47 wrote:

spartakbarnsley wrote:

Ziryab wrote:

I can checkmate with bishop and knight, but only if I’m sober and have at least five minutes on the clock.

tbh most players below master level can't convert that ending. I gave up on learning when I was about 16-1700. I can memorize the moves but it occurs so rarely that I forget when it comes up. Maybe I could learn it now but what's the point? It happens maybe once every couple thousand games and even then you usually have chances to trade into a better ending. I will trade into it if I'm trying to draw though and have yet to lose it.

If you understand the idea you don't have to memorize anything. It's actually pretty easy it's just most books / people who teach it are awful.

Memorize the letter W.

http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2017/05/bishop-and-knight-checkmate.html

Yeah, actually that is one thing you have to memorize (or be aware of) because the knight is the only piece capable of making the king leave the corner.

rixman

Oct 9, 2019

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#204

nescitus wrote:

Recently I played a serious tournament (team's national league) mostly against 2000+ oposition, being 1900+ myself. One opponent hung a knight for no reason, one dropped a rook to a 2-move tactics in a completely won 4 rook endgame, one traded down into a clearly drawn minor piece endgame instead of a won queen endgame (admittedly the game was messy and the opponent had every right to be tired). I hung a pawn twice because of missing a simple pin, still winning one of those games. One 2150 Elo player restored my faith in chess in the last round, punishing me for passive play with a double rook sacrifice leading to checkmate. Apparently we're all muppets.

Thank you very much for this comment. It was really good for my self confidence. Dziekuje bardzo !

SpiritoftheVictory

Oct 19, 2019

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#205

You can always identify as a good player.

PhorPhuxSaek

Mar 9, 2021

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#206

as someone who ranges from 750ish to 1100 skill wise i feel like that range has a very good understanding. I think the beggining elo should be changed. First games i hop into on here these dudes play way way better than someone at starting elo should be. This site is popular i would say 900 ish is a average skill player elo

sndeww

Mar 9, 2021

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#207

in my eyes

anyone higher rated than me is good

anyone lower rated than me is bad

that's the subjective answer.

Ziryab

Mar 9, 2021

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#208

Whatever your current Elo, you are no longer terrible when you add 100.

KnightChecked

Mar 9, 2021

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#209

It's pretty subjective.

I tend to think that 2200 FIDE means you're officially a "good" player (master level). Though, to show how perspective matters, Hikaru Nakamura (2700+ FIDE) said that he thinks 2200 FIDE is still "terrible" at chess.

So it all depends on where you're looking at things.

ponz111

Mar 9, 2021

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#210

2300

spartakbarnsley

Mar 9, 2021

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#211

KnightChecked wrote:

It's pretty subjective.

I tend to think that 2200 FIDE means you're officially a "good" player (master level). Though, to show how perspective matters, Hikaru Nakamura (2700+ FIDE) said that he thinks 2200 FIDE is still "terrible" at chess.

So it all depends on where you're looking at things.

To be fair though, Hikaru does come across as being a bit of a ****. 2200 would put you in the top 1% of chess players in the world. For a bit of context, if we transferred that into football (soccer) terms, that would make you a solid player in the lower reaches of the English professional leagues. I played with guys of this level at school and university. While they were nowhere near Premier League level, they might as well have been for all the good it did anyone playing against them. Compared with the casual hobby player, these people are so good at football it's ridiculous. Absolutely on another stratosphere. For anyone to say that they aren't good, even a Premier League player, would be both disrespectful and completely disingenuous. The same goes for 2200 chess players.

Pryxiyl

May 27, 2021

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#212

notmtwain wrote:

JayeshSinhaChess wrote:

What is the point at which you are no longer a chess muppet. You could still lose to better players, but so will everyone.

Is it 800, 1200, 1500, 2000?

It is 200 points higher than whatever your rating is now.

No matter how good you get, there will always be people who can wipe the floor with you.

/ You are rated 1199 in blitz. Wouldn't you say that anyone rated below 1000 is a muppet?

What if you're the world champ?

JackRoach

May 27, 2021

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#213

I'd say, maybe 1600ish.

tygxc

May 27, 2021

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#214

2700

Jman6540

May 27, 2021

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#215

Blackhawk1115 wrote:

I think that referring to a certain elo as "bad" is all a matter of opinion, but saying that someone is bad because of their low rating is pretty harsh.

I agree with that on all levels, so I'm not gonna tell because I'm afraid to get criticized over it.

blueemu

May 27, 2021

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#216

karmester wrote:

It depends who you ask. I'd say around 1600, but a 1600-rated player would probably say 1800, and an 1800-rated player would probably say 2000.

I'd say 2550.

Mischievous-Monkey

May 29, 2021

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#217

below 3100 is really bad

3250 is bad

3500 is meh

1500 is good

200 is the best

dmc6502

May 29, 2021

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#218

Around 1500 you have put in some effort to learn the most basic concepts .

tygxc

Jun 22, 2021

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#219

"We are all clowns" - Kramnik

christopherneumiller

Aug 7, 2021

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#220

as a 630 elo I can attest to feeling like a scrub in most of my games.