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I have created a "battering ram" - with the rook and queen, knocked on the king's door. opponent tries to stir up some action, I answer the action... opponent gives me a horse, I take the horse. opponent comes with his queen - I open the door to his king.

see? attacks can be slow too.

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ah yes - I wasn't afraid of his horse attacking my queen, I knew this horse will get kicked by a pawn - helping me to open a line to his king even quicker. - It's like in the Scadinavian - where the horse to c3 attacks the queen, but... the horse is misplaced - it blocks the c pawn.

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You played the London... Your oponent tried to be creative.. That was his mistake.

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NDc89 wrote:

You played the London... Your oponent tried to be creative.. That was his mistake.

 

I'm a rookie in the London, just started today. okay good to know - so against the London one shouldn't be creative.

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the thing about the rook-queen and the "door pawn" - b5 is, when I open the door, I'm doing 2 things - I threaten to enter with the queen, and I take a pawn(and on the next move, I can take Another pawn). - this is hard - if someone takes your pawn, you take back, Generally. but here, he can't, sort of.

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When I post stuff like my comment here (link), people (at least beginners) probably think it's not very useful.

But (IMO) this game can be understood pretty simply. 10...a6 was a mistake because 15.a5 + 16.b5 is completely winning for white.

Black should have done what I said in the link and finished development and "attack one of your opponent's center pawns with a pawn of your own" i.e. something like 10...Kb8 followed by Nh6-f7 and then play e5.

Anyway, white played well and won, so good job OP happy.png

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You were white, correct? Ive literally never seen anyone answer London like that, or queenside castle even. In my opinion black should do everything to prevent your control of d5. Pin your f3 knight, if you take on c5, push d5 and from there black has a winning endgame. If youre not taking on c5, I dont know how good is it for black to go with nf6 to nh5 and take your bishop on ng3, where you open up the h file for the rook. Maybe black can push d5 then and you have no time for the attack, haven't tried that yet.

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llama47 wrote:

When I post stuff like my comment here (link), people (at least beginners) probably think it's not very useful.

But (IMO) this game can be understood pretty simply. 10...a6 was a mistake because 15.a5 + 16.b5 is completely winning for white.

Black should have done what I said in the link and finished development and "attack one of your opponent's center pawns with a pawn of your own" i.e. something like 10...Kb8 followed by Nh6-f7 and then play e5.

Anyway, white played well and won, so good job OP

 

Thank you Mr. Llama.

(are you related to the Dalai Lama?)

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NDc89 wrote:

You were white, correct? Ive literally never seen anyone answer London like that, or queenside castle even. In my opinion black should do everything to prevent your control of d5. Pin your f3 knight, if you take on c5, push d5 and from there black has a winning endgame. If youre not taking on c5, I dont know how good is it for black to go with nf6 to nh5 and take your bishop on ng3, where you open up the h file for the rook. Maybe black can push d5 then and you have no time for the attack, haven't tried that yet.

Thx man, good points!

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No problem, its e5, not d5, misspelled.

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I saw your link Llama. here:

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- Put (and usually maintain) a pawn in the center
- Develop pieces
- Castle
- Attack one of your opponent's center pawns with a pawn of your own
- Try to infiltrate into their side of the board

That's basically how it works.

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okay I didn't castle, but let's face the truth - castling is for suckers. I'm joking. but, I didn't want to lol. I castle if I feel danger, or have an idea. beginners need to castle auto-pilot - their sense of danger isn't that great.

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Solmyr1234 wrote:

I saw your link Llama. here:

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- Put (and usually maintain) a pawn in the center
- Develop pieces
- Castle
- Attack one of your opponent's center pawns with a pawn of your own
- Try to infiltrate into their side of the board

That's basically how it works.

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okay I didn't castle, but let's face the truth - castling is for suckers. I'm joking. but, I didn't want to lol. I castle if I feel danger, or have an idea. beginners need to castle auto-pilot - their sense of danger isn't that great.

In this opening / early mid game your decision to delay castling was fine. 3...f6 with 4...e6 implies black was thinking of a kingside pawn storm (g5 etc) meanwhile if black ever did choose e5 he'd be a tempo behind (because he already played e6).

You still developed quickly and then played a pawn break (in this case not against a center pawn, but against your opponent's weakened king).

So yeah, all good.

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NDc89 escreveu:

You played the London... Your oponent tried to be creative.. That was his mistake.

That statement is sad

and untrue

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Immaculate_Slayer je napisao/la:
NDc89 escreveu:

You played the London... Your oponent tried to be creative.. That was his mistake.

That statement is sad

and untrue

 

The truth hurts.

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NDc89 escreveu:
Immaculate_Slayer je napisao/la:
NDc89 escreveu:

You played the London... Your oponent tried to be creative.. That was his mistake.

That statement is sad

and untrue

 

The truth hurts.

Saying that trying to be creative is a mistake is completely ignorant.

You will at least learn doing so. And chess is all about creativity. If you think you can remove that aspect of the game by playing a specific opening, there is something wrong with you.

But you clearly don't know how to properly discuss, so, yeah.

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Immaculate_Slayer je napisao/la:
NDc89 escreveu:
Immaculate_Slayer je napisao/la:
NDc89 escreveu:

You played the London... Your oponent tried to be creative.. That was his mistake.

That statement is sad

and untrue

 

The truth hurts.

Saying that trying to be creative is a mistake is completely ignorant.

You will at least learn doing so. And chess is all about creativity. If you think you can remove that aspect of the game by playing a specific opening, there is something wrong with you.

But you clearly don't know how to properly discuss, so, yeah.

There's exception to everything. Against London, never be creative for first 20 moves hahaha. Try it, youll see it works and learn. Regards bro

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Solmyr1234 wrote:

Thank you Mr. Llama.

(are you related to the Dalai Lama?)

He writes the chess column for the Daily Llama.

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Hmm. The attack seemed quite fast to me
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Thx. What I meant was, getting things ready, and then make an attack that actually works, rather than what some people usually do.