RobboThe1st wrote:
Etiquette aside forcing a draw is a shallow victory for someone whose otherwise outplayed.
If you're in a position where you can force a draw then you are not outplayed.
bad etiquette to force a draw by repetition?
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I just drew a game by forced repetition. I suppose I could have tried to play for the win, but my opponent was higher rated, I was in time pressure, and I didn't think I would survive once the queens were off the board. I don't think what I did was bad etiquette in any way, and I would do it again without guilt.
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The position above in eulers_knot's game is a dead draw, and it's bad etiquette to actually play out the repetition instead of simply offering (or accepting) a draw.
Ha ha, nice trolling effort. But no, still not bad etiquette.
Feb 6, 2018
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#68
Your friend is a WIMP. There is another word starting with 'W' but let us keep this polite.
If he couldn't win, then tough sh*t for him. He should grow up and avoid draws and certainly not tell
innacuracies (also known as lies) to beginners. Imagine the mental trauma he would have suffered if the draw had been by stalemate!!! Ha Ha. If he is so obsessed with etiquette then he should find another more politically correct game than chess.
eulers_knot wrote:
Ha ha, nice trolling effort. But no, still not bad etiquette.
Well ok, perhaps not bad etiquette. But if I find myself in the position where I intend to force the draw by repetition, I will simply offer a draw. If my opponent declines, it's either petulence (I don't want to draw) or ignorance (I'm too dumb to know it's a draw).
I just don't see the point in repeating moves when it's quicker to agree a draw, especially when it's forced.
Exactly, these quirks with chess players I just don't understand
Feb 6, 2018
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#71
Just imagine how much he would complain about 'bad etiquette' if he played kick boxing not chess.
What sort of a je*k is this guy anyway.
austinbw11 wrote:
I forced a draw a couple days ago and I still feel bad about it. My opponent clearly outplayed me. He/she deserved to win and I deserved to lose. I know the rule exists for a good reason, but I still feel there are situations where it is unsportsmanlike.
If your opponent truly outplayed you, they would've been able to avoid a forced draw.
Oct 29, 2018
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#73
good job. I once had a tournament blitz game where I was losing by a piece we were both down to about a minute a piece. I checked him and he moved a rook to take a free pawn and stayed in check. being that we were both tied for first and that this was the last round I took his king and won the tournament because of the rule that if somebody makes an illegal move than you Can take their king.
Sep 9, 2021
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#76
I am relieved to read this post ... just played a game where I had to force a draw... winning or losing by checkmate seems honorable....but absolutely would agree that if an opponent can force a draw then the position was not strong in the first place ! Happy days 
I think most people are missing one important fact, you were down 13 points. At high levels it's not uncommon for guys to resign if they make a mistake that costs them 3 points. But, at high levels, players often realize that their is almost no way to come back and force a draw against a strong player after their blunder. This of course depends on positioning and the point you are at in the game as well. Gambititing a piece to gain a favorable position is common, but with a blunder, against a strong player, you often have to realize that you can't defend all your pieces and resign. In all likelihood, before you even thought of forcing a draw you were down so much that you probably should have resigned. At low levels though, there are enough mistakes for comebacks to happen much more often and therefore, less need to resign after a blunder. What happened in your match was so statistically unlikely that you probably shouldn't have considered it possible and resigned. I mean, he could have easily left 2 rooks for defending the king and stopping your pawns then gotten another queen or 2. This guy got too impatient and let the draw take place and you probably should have resigned at some point.
I used to be very active on these forums in idk 2014, 2015, 2016 and at some point there was an all-time great thread in which someone complained that their opponent had escaped with a draw by perpetual check. The immortal line was (if I remember correctly) “my opponent was only able to draw because of the rules of the game.” They were dead serious.
Feb 11, 2022
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#79
Why on earth the necromancy?!? It's absurd to complain about an opponent forcing a draw by any legal means. Your shame at allowing it does not constitute reasonable grounds for whinging and playing the victim.
Etiquette aside forcing a draw is a shallow victory for someone whose otherwise outplayed.
That comment is usually made by someone who does not know how to checkmate in the endgame and feels somehow that their superior piece count should be enough to gain them the win.