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JaseE22

Hi guys,

 

I would like to take chess up again as a hobby. Can you advise which chess engine would be best for a beginner keen on improving after a long time away from the game? I see Fritz, Komodo, etc. but I am not sure which would be best for my needs so any help or advise on which to choose, differences between each, etc. would be most appreciated.

JaseE22
FishEyedFools wrote:

Search for a free engine, and uci

 

You would not recommend one of the chess engines like Houdini/Komodo/Fritz?

 

Colin20G

Stockfish

JaseE22

Thanks guys. Does Stockfish give suggestions about the best move, allow you to analyse games afterwards? i.e. basically does it have all the features that are in the engines that cost? If it does, why does anyone buy them?

gingerninja2003

You can get stockfish for free and it's probably the best 

SeniorPatzer
FishEyedFools wrote:

Search for a free engine, and uci

 

What does UCI do for you?

SeniorPatzer
FishEyedFools wrote:
SeniorPatzer wrote:
FishEyedFools wrote:

Search for a free engine, and uci

 

What does UCI do for you?

Universal Chess Interface

Its the actual board, pieces, etc.

 

Thanks.   Thought that would be automatically be bundled with the chess engine.  

 

Sounds like the UCI is pretty important.  Who's got the best UCI?  And can it sit on top of any engine you choose?

SeniorPatzer

Isn't Fritz both a chess engine and a UCI?

Xilmi

If you have any android device simply install the free app "Droidfish".

It uses Stockfish as engine and the user-interface can do basically anything you might wish for. Analysis, giving advice what to move next and you can even run other engines on it, if you so desire.

EscherehcsE

Hey guys, I just need to clarify the terminology. A GUI is the Graphical User Interface (i.e., the program that shows the board, pieces, etc.).

UCI is the newer chess engine communication protocol. (Winboard is the older engine communication protocol.)

Some GUIs support both protocols, some GUIs only support one protocol.

SeniorPatzer
FishEyedFools wrote:
SeniorPatzer wrote:

Isn't Fritz both a chess engine and a UCI?

Yep...but i just use the interface.  Not that it matters what engine i use.  Im just  simple class player.

 

Have you compared the Fritz UCI with the free DroidFish UCI mentioned above?

 

What do you like about the Fritz UCI?

DavidHHH

Why engine? Why not people, live games here?

santiagomagno15

 I never used an engine to study, only I used it when I was 1700, do tactics and play slow games instead.

RMChess1954

The Engine is UCI to connect to the GUI. My favorite GUIs are Arena and SCID vs PC. Read all about these free GUIs and Engines and how to set them up on my blog. http://chesstech.info/

Look down the left side for the menu to these topics.

RMChess1954

Oh GUI is Graphic User Interface (the program you see to display the board).

KODIAMUSMAXIMUS

ChessKing available at the USCF site or https://chessking.com/ has a lot of nice "training" setups to play and practice against. It also has strong program, good sized database. Check out their videos on youtube.

JaseE22

I should maybe rephrase my original question. Which chess program would be best for a beginner? Houdini, Fritz, Komodo, etc? From reading Erebus can use Stickfish as an engine within if these programmes, so I'm trying to understand what distinguishes one programme from another and which would be better for me?

SonOfThunder2

Stockfish

 

 

 

 

 

L O L !

JaseE22
FishEyedFools wrote:
JaseE22 wrote:

I should maybe rephrase my original question. Which chess program would be best for a beginner? Houdini, Fritz, Komodo, etc? From reading Erebus can use Stickfish as an engine within if these programmes, so I'm trying to understand what distinguishes one programme from another and which would be better for me?

Any of the top engines are rated 3000+  Does it really matter to a beeginner if one is rated 3200, and another is rated 3250?  

Your games are won and lost due to blunders.

 

Why did you go for the Fritz user interface as opposed to one of the others?

 

JaseE22
mickynj wrote:

The fact is, there isn't a whole lot of difference between them. Perhaps if you were a top grandmaster, using the engine to help with deep opening preparation, the tiny differences between the leading engines might mean something. But for us mortals, all the engines are so much stronger than we are that tiny differences don't matter. But none of them are particularly good at giving us good advice. The engine will show us its list of candidate moves in a position and give it's evaluation of each move, but it won't tell us "14.Ne4 is the best move because it helps control the dark squares around Black's king." If only it did! If you play out some of the lines the engine suggests, you will see, and get to recognize, a lot of tactical patterns. And examining the engine's choices will show you a lot about how to create and exploit weaknesses. But you will have to draw these conclusions for yourself! All the engine can tell you is that 14.Ne4 has an evaluation of +1.86, while 14.Re1 has an evaluation of 0.75. 

I'm not knocking engines--I use one all the time in analyzing my lost games. But engines by themselves are not the best learning tool

 

Thanks for the input, appreciate it!