Best player never to win the chess World Championship

Sort:
polydiatonic
chessoholicalien wrote:

I hear 4 names most commonly mentioned in this regard:

1. Keres

2. Bronstein

3. Kortschnoj

4. Rubinstein

Anyone have any differing opinions?


I'd add Reshevsky to that list for sure, perhaps Bent Larsen too.

polydiatonic
Reb wrote:
Gonnosuke wrote:
CPawn wrote:
mkirk wrote:
CPawn wrote:

Karpov


 umm... but Karpov has won a world championship and has been world champion - both against Korchnoi (late 70's and 1981) and in 1993 against Jan Timman.


 Karpov didnt win the title, he retained the the title that was given to him.


Karpov doesn't deserve this sort of permanent asterisk next to his name.  It wasn't until the best player of all time arrived on the scene that Karpov had a serious rival.  If one wants to diminish the accomplishments of former World Champions, there are much easier targets than Karpov....


 I must agree that Karpov doesnt deserve the asterisk attached to him, however you are a little off the mark with the rest of your comment Roy. Karpov didnt have a serious rival because the greatest player of all time quit !


Take a look at: http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/fischer-mentally-disturbed-or-just-mean-spirited-jerk

I have another thread running regarding Fischer and our national/international obsession with him that you might want to investigate.  But the idea that Fischer would have been a certain victor over Karpov is really fantasy.  Maybe he would have won, maybe he wouldn't we'll never know, but the fact is that Fischer was either too, Crazy, Stubborn or just plain Chicken to play Karpov.  So, give Karpov his just recognition.  It's like a boxing match.  If the fighter doesn't answer the bell, he looses.  That's exactly what Fischer did, he failed to answer the challenge so screw him.

NJW1983
kco wrote:

Nigel Short


1.  Viktor Korchnoi

2. Aron Nimzowitsch

3.  Paul Keres

4. David Bronstein

raul72
polydiatonic wrote:
chessoholicalien wrote:

I hear 4 names most commonly mentioned in this regard:

1. Keres

2. Bronstein

3. Kortschnoj

4. Rubinstein

Anyone have any differing opinions?


I'd add Reshevsky to that list for sure, perhaps Bent Larsen too.


Poly, you seem to have an unmitigated hatred for Fischer. Yet, you name two players Fischer owned lock, stock and barrel.

Tell me truthfully Poly---do you watch a lot of three stooges movies? Wink 

alec40

1) David Bronstien

2) Akiva Rubinstien

3) Carl Schlechter (came very,very close if only he went for a draw instead of a win against Lasker!) 

4) Victor Kortchnoi

5)Johannes Zukertort

6) Aaron Nimzovitch

7) Siegbert Tarrasch

Kingpatzer

Yusupov was #3 after Kasparov and Karpov for a good portion of the 80s. But I somehow don't think he belongs in the same category as Bronstien, Keres, and Korchnoi.

fluffynnaj
polydiatonic wrote:
Reb wrote:
Gonnosuke wrote:
CPawn wrote:
mkirk wrote:
CPawn wrote:

Karpov


umm... but Karpov has won a world championship and has been world champion - both against Korchnoi (late 70's and 1981) and in 1993 against Jan Timman.


Karpov didnt win the title, he retained the the title that was given to him.


Karpov doesn't deserve this sort of permanent asterisk next to his name. It wasn't until the best player of all time arrived on the scene that Karpov had a serious rival. If one wants to diminish the accomplishments of former World Champions, there are much easier targets than Karpov....


I must agree that Karpov doesnt deserve the asterisk attached to him, however you are a little off the mark with the rest of your comment Roy. Karpov didnt have a serious rival because the greatest player of all time quit !


Take a look at: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/fischer-mentally-disturbed-or-just-mean-spirited-jerk

I have another thread running regarding Fischer and our national/international obsession with him that you might want to investigate. But the idea that Fischer would have been a certain victor over Karpov is really fantasy. Maybe he would have won, maybe he wouldn't we'll never know, but the fact is that Fischer was either too, Crazy, Stubborn or just plain Chicken to play Karpov. So, give Karpov his just recognition. It's like a boxing match. If the fighter doesn't answer the bell, he looses. That's exactly what Fischer did, he failed to answer the challenge so screw him.

Go argue about the greatest player of all time somewhere else- also I know this comment is over 10 years old but Magnus is undoubtedly the best player of all time

colecollector
Me
Ziryab

Greco

SwEeTSkullS
Me :3
mahmoodishuman

i did not win a championship

Hikaru_fansuper

Everybody forgot Fabiano