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setanator

ummm i dont think it is chess that makes amerka fat (dad when will we get the xbox i want to play it) it is more like gaming systemsInnocentLaughing

ReedRichards

 

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This website may cause life threatening obesity in the USA if not accompanied by a calorie controlled diet.

Actually calories have nothing to do with being fat. This misconception is the reason why many people can't lose weight. It's not calories that make you fat, it is CARBONHYDRATES that make you fat. Too much bread, sugar, rice, spagetti makes you fat. If you're on a low-carb diet you can sit on your ass all day without gaining any weight = this site isn't dangerous as long as you don't eat bad food.

post#24

"No, it's calories the body stores fat when there is excess energy that has not been burned off. Calories are a measurement for energy, therefore if one consumes too many calories then they will gain bodily fat. Carbohydrates have 4 calories per gram, as does protein (yes too much protein makes you fat, deal with it) and fat has 9 calories per gram. Therefore fat, not carbohydrates, is the main culprit."

No wonder the world is full with so many fat and unhealthy people...we clearly don't have clue.

The fact is foods we consume are in the groups "carbohydrates, proteins and fats ".

All of which provide us with different amounts of calories, which in turn produces the energy we need to do anything.

The formula is simple- If we consume more calories than we burn, then the body stores the excess as fat. If we consume less calories than we burn, the body converts the stored fat to produce the shortfall needed.

...So it is a balance between calorie consumption, and energy usage...that determines our weight.

-Exercise affects energy usage.

-Diets affect calories intake.

Different diets of course provide "positives" and "negatives" to our overall health.

...any questions class?

mawilli8041

That is completely false. i am a 16 year old and i play alot of basketball and lift heavy weights. but i like to play chess too. 76%of americans are not morbidly obese, This guy is just against america in general. And 1600 is not a bad rating 1200 to 1600 is intermediate 1600 being the highest so shut up and keep comments to yourself.

ninevah
mawilli8041 wrote:

That is completely false. i am a 16 year old and i play alot of basketball and lift heavy weights. but i like to play chess too. 76%of americans are not morbidly obese, This guy is just against america in general. And 1600 is not a bad rating 1200 to 1600 is intermediate 1600 being the highest so shut up and keep comments to yourself.


So why is your birthday listed as 1968?

AtahanT
ReedRichards wrote:
No wonder the world is full with so many fat and unhealthy people...we clearly don't have clue.

The fact is foods we consume are in the groups "carbohydrates, proteins and fats ".

All of which provide us with different amounts of calories, which in turn produces the energy we need to do anything.

The formula is simple- If we consume more calories than we burn, then the body stores the excess as fat. If we consume less calories than we burn, the body converts the stored fat to produce the shortfall needed.

...So it is a balance between calorie consumption, and energy usage...that determines our weight.

-Exercise affects energy usage.

-Diets affect calories intake.

Different diets of course provide "positives" and "negatives" to our overall health.

...any questions class?


Instead of explaining everything again, let me ask you this then: Why are people fat and what advice would you give to someone trying to lose weight? Answer this based on your theory of energy and food consumption.

AtahanT
wikstrom wrote:

*the BASIC advise to lose weight is to decrease input and/or increase output

 

*Of course, plenty of carbohydrate input in the form of pasta/potato/bread/sweets will enhance input - and I agree - will do so more than the same weight of protein or fat.


These two statements put together say the same thing I am trying to say. People overconsume energy and become fat because of carb-heavy food. So we kind of agree.

rednblack

first month's free, kid.

ReedRichards

Post#59

" That's it, Reed, you passed with acclamation Cool"

 

Thank you Professor Wikstrom.

AtahanT
tngerb wrote:

I have no idea about these diets, fortunately i lack much of an appepite, but i have to agree that one-sided diets are not healthy. If someone is telling you that bread, pasta, and potatos are bad for you and a lot of fat is healthy then clearly they are wrong... give me a break. Stop eating bread and start chugging vegetable oil? good idea!


Clearly?

Tell me what did human kind eat for 200.000 years before pasta and bread and potatoes?

History holds the obvious answer and it is not what you think.

Tnk64ChessCourse
AtahanT wrote:
thechessvids wrote:
AtahanT wrote:
Beast719 wrote:

This website may cause life threatening obesity in the USA if not accompanied by a calorie controlled diet.


Actually calories have nothing to do with being fat. This misconception is the reason why many people can't lose weight. It's not calories that make you fat, it is CARBONHYDRATES that make you fat. Too much bread, sugar, rice, spagetti makes you fat. If you're on a low-carb diet you can sit on your ass all day without gaining any weight = this site isn't dangerous as long as you don't eat bad food.


No, it's calories the body stores fat when there is excess energy that has not been burned off. Calories are a measurement for energy, therefore if one consumes too many calories then they will gain bodily fat. Carbohydrates have 4 calories per gram, as does protein (yes too much protein makes you fat, deal with it) and fat has 9 calories per gram. Therefore fat, not carbohydrates, is the main culprit.


No that is not how it works. This misconception is exactly the reason why so many diets do not work and why people stay fat. The problem is indeed overconsumption of carbs.

Long story short: Carbs do not satisfy your hunger. Fat and protein does. This means someone that eats 100 calories in form of fat and protein is going to be satisfied while someone eating 100 calories in form of mainly carbs is still going to be hungry, making him overconsume calories. You can easily compare this to trying to feel full by eating candy. It does not work. And yes, pasta, potatoes, bread are mainly carbs = long sugar chains.

There is another problem with eating carbs. Carbs trigger your insuline production and as soon as you have insuline in your blood it cuts off the fatburning process of your liver. The energy gained from fat does not do this. This is why Atkins diet (high fat and protein but very low carb intake) works extremly well for losing weight and keeping it off without going hungry.

You really need to read up on this and I do know many people have it all wrong. Actually the majority of the population has it wrong including many doctors and dietists (which is suprising).

And yes I myself am living proof of it. I know it works because I've seen it work on myself and people I know. I lost 12kg fat in 2 months WITHOUT any excercise at all by just sitting infront of my pc.


Carbohydrates have a tendency to be low GI when they are not processed.Unless your dumb enough to eat white breads and rices, most have a very low GI. Also, dietist is not a word. Dietician is a word. Seriously, according to your logic, humans must not have eaten bread before the 1980's, when obesity became a major problem. 

Tnk64ChessCourse
ReedRichards wrote:

 

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http://cdn-cssjs.chesscomfiles.com/images/icons/custom/quote.gif); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #d7d7d0; color: #444444; padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 6px; padding-left: 24px; display: block; background-position: 4px 4px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; margin: 6px; border: 1px solid #bcbcb3;">Beast719 wrote:

This website may cause life threatening obesity in the USA if not accompanied by a calorie controlled diet.

Actually calories have nothing to do with being fat. This misconception is the reason why many people can't lose weight. It's not calories that make you fat, it is CARBONHYDRATES that make you fat. Too much bread, sugar, rice, spagetti makes you fat. If you're on a low-carb diet you can sit on your ass all day without gaining any weight = this site isn't dangerous as long as you don't eat bad food.

post#24

"No, it's calories the body stores fat when there is excess energy that has not been burned off. Calories are a measurement for energy, therefore if one consumes too many calories then they will gain bodily fat. Carbohydrates have 4 calories per gram, as does protein (yes too much protein makes you fat, deal with it) and fat has 9 calories per gram. Therefore fat, not carbohydrates, is the main culprit."

No wonder the world is full with so many fat and unhealthy people...we clearly don't have clue.

The fact is foods we consume are in the groups "carbohydrates, proteins and fats ".

All of which provide us with different amounts of calories, which in turn produces the energy we need to do anything.

The formula is simple- If we consume more calories than we burn, then the body stores the excess as fat. If we consume less calories than we burn, the body converts the stored fat to produce the shortfall needed.

...So it is a balance between calorie consumption, and energy usage...that determines our weight.

-Exercise affects energy usage.

-Diets affect calories intake.

Different diets of course provide "positives" and "negatives" to our overall health.

...any questions class?


Well said my friend.

alexfeghhi
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TheGrobe
tngerb wrote:

Before potatoes? Hmmm... maybe they ate the fat ones.


http://emotionalliteracyeducation.com/classic_books_online/mdprp10.htm

AtahanT
thechessvids wrote:

Carbohydrates have a tendency to be low GI when they are not processed.Unless your dumb enough to eat white breads and rices, most have a very low GI. Also, dietist is not a word. Dietician is a word. Seriously, according to your logic, humans must not have eaten bread before the 1980's, when obesity became a major problem. 


Since the 1980s carbs have been highly processed and in combination with fear of fat and introduction of fat-free products. The fear of fat and the unnessary amount of carb consumption has made us fat, yes. Besides, there were also fat people before 1980s anyways.

philidorposition
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Cystem_Phailure
AtahanT wrote (in various posts):  . . . calories have nothing to do with being fat. This misconception . . . No, that is not how it works. This misconception . . . it is CARBONHYDRATES that make you fat . . . many people have it all wrong . . . including many doctors and dietists . . . I know it works . . . Nope, this has been proven false . . . the input output theory has no scientific proof to stand on . . . the input output idea is bogus . . . 

Clearly, such strongly held views could not simply result from someone who just read a few articles and decided s/he was an expert, right?  How long have you been a nutritional researcher, and at which hospital or university do you perform your research?  I would rather go to your lab's website and read your original papers, as I expect they must be written in a more, uh, professional tone.

Say, you wouldn't happen to be posting under another name in a thread about supranormal chess and cold fusion, would you?

Patzer101

chess does not make you fat unless you do nothing else

y do u belong to chess.com if you think that

please talk sense

PrawnEatsPrawn

Reality check:

Beast719 is a well known and frequent poster of funny/sarcastic/ludicrous topics. I'm not sure how any native English speaker does not recognise the OP for what it is, a blatantly obvious "wind up".

philidorposition
TheGrobe wrote:
tngerb wrote:

Before potatoes? Hmmm... maybe they ate the fat ones.


http://emotionalliteracyeducation.com/classic_books_online/mdprp10.htm


It was such a relief to see that was satirical. Goodness!

LordJones3rd

i think you're right Beast, chess and Wimpytm are next to each other in a thesaurus