Bishop is best

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DinnerSpaceparauno

i used to favor knights over bishops, but recently learned that while you cannot mate with 2 knights, you can mate with a pair of bishops (black and white). Knights are awesome, but bishop is best I say. 

DinnerSpaceparauno

But a game we'd not end that way, made up position. 

ijgeoffrey
No reason to argue. :) It's true that the OP didn't choose his words well, but it seems pretty clear that he meant you cannot *force* mate with two Knights, but you can with two bishops. I'm not 100% sure that's correct, but I believe it is. What you posted @michael is called a helpmate and doesn't really refute his point.
Filosoraptor17
 
Y0U ARE verY WR0NG
 VISH0PS SUCKS,  GET PAWNS 
 
ModestAndPolite

Two knights cannot force mate against a  bare king.  Two bishops can. That does not mean that two bishops are superior to two knights in general. It means only that they are the better pair of minor pieces to have in that particular situation, i.e. when only the two kings remain beside them.  The relative strengths of any opposing pieces always depends on the positions of the rest of the pieces and pawns (if any!)  It is just especially varied and complicated where two or more minor pieces are being compared.

 

There is nothing wrong, most of the time, with favouring the two bishops over other pairings of minor pieces .  That is what a majority of strong players does, for many reasons.  But the fact that they can force checkmate is not the best of reasons for that preference. 

aglitatta

 

Is it possible to force a mate with just a B and a N?

 

 

Spectator94
aglitatta wrote:

 

Is it possible to force a mate with just a B and a N?

 

 

yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop_and_knight_checkmate

ijgeoffrey

@aglitatta, yes it's possible, but VERY difficult. I still can't do it, even though I know it can be done. 

aglitatta

  Thanks.....Aggie

ModestAndPolite
aglitatta wrote:

 

Is it possible to force a mate with just a B and a N?

 

 

 

In slow chess: yes.  In on-line bullet: only of you have the fastest mouse and internet connection in the world