Bishop vs. Knight? which is more valuable??

Bishop vs. Knight? which is more valuable??

I know people say they are of equal value, but i'm calling bs. They move so differently, and the knight has such unique qualities that make me believe the knight must be more valuable. Also, i feel like if your opponent still has their queen, then the knight is without a doubt more valuable bc I have found the knight to be a fantastic tool against your opponent's queen and other pieces around the queen. the knight is just able to dance around the queen

But I want your opinion. So give me the pro's and con's of both pieces. Tell me which one you think is more valuable. I wanna know bc when my opponenet pins my knight with his bishop, i always keep wondering "why doesn't he just take my knight, wouldn't losing his bishop be worth taking my knight"?

PS: Like to me, the knight seems such a vital part of an opening structure, so should I ever allow a bishop to take my knight

seriously this post has been up for an hour and i bet no one has even seen it.

why are most of the popular topics on chess.com not about chess?

Or simply put a king and two bishops on the board vs a king and two knights. The power of two bishops on an open board is awesome.

It really depends on position, but if you didn't know the position, the bishop is more important 

I respect a bishop more, but I feel like it mostly depends on the position. I know what you mean. On all my blogs, no one ever sees them, only the bad/crappy blogs get popular. =(

I would say that a knight is better for me because it can do cool move patterns that no other piece can do!

Also and knight can change different square colors on the board but a bishop can't. That's a good point.

 But a counter point to those saying bishop is so powerful, it is not often that you are lucky enough to have two bishops on an open board. But, it is a common occurrence for two knights to be on a blocked up board 

there's never really a time when the knight becomes weaker. But when the squares of a certain color are blocked up, one bishop goes bad.

An interesting idea I came across on this website is that if youre attacking with a queen and a minor piece, it might be better if the minor piece is a knight. The reason being, a queen already has the power of a bishop, whereas the knight brings a whole new dynamic to the combo/attack. But its already been said in this thread - it depends on the position. 

in the endgame (which I am currently.studying) I would much prefer the bishop

in the endgame (which I am currently.studying) I would much prefer the bishop

check out Ding Liren vs Karjakin in wijk.kan zee 2016 where Ding shows the superiority of his bishop in an endgame, leaving karjakin resigning

I am not saying I don't like the bishop, i am just saying that I think the knight is better.

 that's exactly what I'm getting at. The knight has two unique abilities that no other pieces have, the ability to jump over pieces of both colors, and that the knight has a special moving pattern that hits a square that is neither directly diagonal to the knight nor directly in line with the knight. The L-shaped moving pattern is an absolute killer in the endgame.

It depends on the position.

Depends. 

End of thread. 

I once had a strong belief that in an endgame, king and pawns and one minor piece, it was usually the case that king + knight + pawns would beat king + bishop  + pawns.

I reached some endgame positions like that and won them with the knight, and potentially either I was right and they were won for me, or I just had the right strategy as to how to play such an endgame so played it better than my opponent. Or just that his particular endgame was won but not in general.

My logic at the time was that, in such an endgame, I can put my pawns where they are safe from attack (by his bishop) but he can't put his where they are safe from attack by my knight. So he will be generally on the defensive.

I do generally agree that in the earlier part of the game it can be advantageous to have at least one bishop. It is also often acknowledged that if you have bishop + knight vs two bishops you should try to exchange your bishop with your opponent's to leave knight alone vs bishop alone.

By the way, I know there are some endgame situations king + bishop + pawns vs king + knight + pawns where the player with the knight is more susceptible to zugzwang. These are probably a minority compared to the case I discussed, although they might be more common but also more for the real "experts".

In Open Positions, Bishops are better and in Closed Positions, Knights are better.