"Blitz and Bullet are not chess."

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B1ZMARK wrote:
krazeechess wrote:

also btw @b1zmark i agree with u but i think many ppl think that blitz and bullet is stupid/moronic and thats why they say its not chess..... it is chess but i do think they have a point when they say bullet is dumb

Are blitz and bullet quality chess? No... 

But they are most certainly chess, yes.

I am pretty sure people with +700 rating player' blitz has more quality than lower rated player' OTB.

e.g.  2700 blitz better than 2000 OTB

2000 blitz better than 1300 OTB.

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B1ZMARK wrote:
krazeechess wrote:

also btw @b1zmark i agree with u but i think many ppl think that blitz and bullet is stupid/moronic and thats why they say its not chess..... it is chess but i do think they have a point when they say bullet is dumb

Are blitz and bullet quality chess? No... 

But they are most certainly chess, yes.

You at least need to try to not be a spammer.

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drmrboss wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
krazeechess wrote:

also btw @b1zmark i agree with u but i think many ppl think that blitz and bullet is stupid/moronic and thats why they say its not chess..... it is chess but i do think they have a point when they say bullet is dumb

Are blitz and bullet quality chess? No... 

But they are most certainly chess, yes.

I am pretty sure people with +700 rating player' blitz has more quality than lower rated player' OTB.

e.g.  2700 blitz better than 2000 OTB

2000 blitz better than 1300 OTB.

I meant between two players of equal rating in different time controls, eg 2100 rapid vs 2100 blitz.

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MeltedBreakfast wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
krazeechess wrote:

also btw @b1zmark i agree with u but i think many ppl think that blitz and bullet is stupid/moronic and thats why they say its not chess..... it is chess but i do think they have a point when they say bullet is dumb

Are blitz and bullet quality chess? No... 

But they are most certainly chess, yes.

You at least need to try to not be a spammer.

If you were serious about debating this then you would have addressed my points in my original post one by one.

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i am, I'm saying that I think that bullet and blitz are not chess. After all, in real life, you don't have 40 minutes. I agree. You have more. You have 3 minutes or 1 minute or 4 minutes or whatever time control under 5? Noooo. Not exactly. You don't see 3 minute or 1 minute departures of troops. You need time to analyze. War would kind of be like this if it was blitz or bullet: Pawns charge and try to destroy. Boom, they get destroyed. 5 seconds later, oh, let's mobilize the bishops. Oh, they got destroyed too? 1 minute later, knights and rooks go protect the king!! 1 minute later, oh, they won? Fabulous. 3 seconds later. Oh, they got destroyed. Send in the queen!

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MeltedBreakfast wrote:

i am, I'm saying that I think that bullet and blitz are not chess. After all, in real life, you don't have 40 minutes. I agree. You have more. You have 3 minutes or 1 minute or 4 minutes or whatever time control under 5? Noooo. Not exactly. You don't see 3 minute or 1 minute departures of troops. You need time to analyze. War would kind of be like this if it was blitz or bullet: Pawns charge and try to destroy. Boom, they get destroyed. 5 seconds later, oh, let's mobilize the bishops. Oh, they got destroyed too? 1 minute later, knights and rooks go protect the king!! 1 minute later, oh, they won? Fabulous. 3 seconds later. Oh, they got destroyed. Send in the queen!

This would be good except you still haven't clarified what counts as chess or not. Of course its not good chess, especially at lower levels - but is still chess by definition. You seem to be under some impression that a few minutes is not enough to plan even marginally ahead.

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it isn't. I've played a bullet game once against someone and lost because of time. You can't "lose on time" during actual wars, except if you die.

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So, bullet and blitz are not chess.

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MeltedBreakfast wrote:

it isn't. I've played a bullet game once against someone and lost because of time. You can't "lose on time" during actual wars, except if you die.

By that reckoning classical isn't chess. Only casual chess is then.

Who knew Magnus doesn't play chess!

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Also indecision has been the reason many wars were lost... They ran out of time...

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Bullet isn’t dumb if your name is Nakamura. But for me yeah it’s dumb. I found my win rate improves if I ignore the chess and just move as quickly as possible, don’t get mated, and win on time.

But I hate doing that. So I don’t play.
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If blitz wouldn’t be chess, it would be a bit surprising that the World Champion in chess is doing so well also at that game. He won the last three blitz World Championships and did well already in 2009. Just look at the scores against some decent opposition at the top of that table…

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The saying “blitz and bullet are not chess” is used to discourage people from playing time controls that harm the player’s style. Don’t encourage people to play bullet. It’s harmful if you want to improve.

BTW I JUST HIT 2300 BULLET I’M SO HAPPY
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A lot of people keep confusing “bad for your chess” with “not chess”. 

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fabelhaft wrote:

If blitz wouldn’t be chess, it would be a bit surprising that the World Champion in chess is doing so well also at that game. He won the last three blitz World Championships and did well already in 2009. Just look at the scores against some decent opposition at the top of that table…

 

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could you some it up please

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MeltedBreakfast wrote:

i am, I'm saying that I think that bullet and blitz are not chess. After all, in real life, you don't have 40 minutes. I agree. You have more. You have 3 minutes or 1 minute or 4 minutes or whatever time control under 5? Noooo. Not exactly. You don't see 3 minute or 1 minute departures of troops. You need time to analyze. War would kind of be like this if it was blitz or bullet: Pawns charge and try to destroy. Boom, they get destroyed. 5 seconds later, oh, let's mobilize the bishops. Oh, they got destroyed too? 1 minute later, knights and rooks go protect the king!! 1 minute later, oh, they won? Fabulous. 3 seconds later. Oh, they got destroyed. Send in the queen!

search up the meaning of chess lol

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Bullet and blitz are part of chess, but it doesn't really help your play in tournaments that much.... so unless you just play chess for fun, playing speed chess shouldn't be something your actively doing (my opinion).

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ChessIntuition0906 wrote:

Bullet and blitz are part of chess, but it doesn't really help your play in tournaments that much.... so unless you just play chess for fun, playing speed chess shouldn't be something your actively doing (my opinion).

bullet and blitz are chess but are not great if you want to improve

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blitz and bullet are, of course, chess, but if you want to improve, they aren't to good

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