Blitz Tactic: Offer Draw to win

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hsbgowd

I think I have found a way to convert certain drawn games into a win and it has worked twice with me.

In my 1st game, the position was equal and I was having 40 sec on my clock  vs my opponent 1min 40 seconds. I offered a draw after he perpetually checked me twice. He took 20 seconds to think of a move, allowing me to steal some seconds from his clock and then made a silly move which probably wouldnt have been made if the draw wasn't offered. I won a few moves later.

In my 2nd game, was having 2 min vs my opponent who had 7 min. It was clearly a drawn endgame and I offered a draw. My opponent took some time and played a silly move and I had a win in a few moves.

Probably they were playing because they wanted to win on time and my draw offer kinda intimidated them to invent a radically stunning move to win. 

Do you think this will work most of the time in blitz?

Ziryab

No, it will not work often.

skiking

probably not, but there is no down side.   why not keep doing it?

tigergutt
skiking wrote:

probably not, but there is no down side.   why not keep doing it?


they may accept itTongue out

amitprabhale

Rubbish!!! such so called 'tactic'; wont work. Even though ur positions were equal U were slow compare 2ur opponent, N U were a clear loser.

IN BLITZ TIME MATTERS...

hsbgowd
amitprabhale wrote:

Rubbish!!! such so called 'tactic'; wont work. Even though ur positions were equal U were slow compare 2ur opponent, N U were a clear loser.

IN BLITZ TIME MATTERS...


But your status message says otherwise. 

tigergutt

maybe offering draw has the benefit that the player who refused want to show how this is not draw and lose by doing mistake when playing for win in draw position. i think the first player who realize its a draw and offers it gets a psycological advantage

escral

I knew a guy who did this in a tournament when his opponent was in time trouble but with a decent position.  It made his opponent waste more of the little time that was remaining (my friend is an IM now and he was playing a master).  My friend said after the game he offered the draw knowing that his opponent would like the positon too much to accept, so it ended up being a winning tactic as I believe my friend's opponent lost because of time trouble.

Ziryab
Zug wrote:

I wrote an article on draws you might find interesting:

Draw Offers

- Zug


Brilliant stuff!

hsbgowd
Zug wrote:

I wrote an article on draws you might find interesting:

Draw Offers

- Zug


Yes it is interesting. Good one.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

There was an interesting article in Chess Life last year I think which addressed exactly this issue. The author called it the "Trojan Horse Draw Offer". I can't find the article, sorry, but it addressed exactly the higher propensity for the opponent to blunder right after the draw offer.

parsnip

doesn't sound in the spirit of the game to me.

Conflagration_Planet
parsnip wrote:

doesn't sound in the spirit of the game to me.


 I agree. Why don't you just try to win by out playing your opponent? Too foreign a concept?

Ziryab

White played 21.bxc3 and offered a draw. Black accepted, then woke up in horror at 4:00am the next morning. What did sleep reveal?

 

David_Spencer

If I'm not mistaken, 1...Rf2 2.Qxf2 bxc3 followed by 3...Qa1# is unstoppable.

Ziryab
SirDavid wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, 1...Rf2 2.Qxf2 bxc3 followed by 3...Qa1# is unstoppable.


You're in my nightmare. It was a wild game, but I was winning for most of it. The next time I saw my opponent, I accused him of seeing forced checkmate when he offered the draw (he was in sixth grade then). He pretended that he did not know what I was talking about--proof that he saw it.

Fromper

I very rarely offer draws any more. When I do, it's either because the position is so completely dead drawn that there's no longer any chance my opponent could blunder, or else I have a clearly winning position, but I'm running too low on time to finish the win without blundering myself.

When my opponents offer me draws, my first instinct these days is to wonder "What's he afraid of?". To me, offering me a draw outside an obviously dead drawn endgame is similar to my opponent telling me "white to play and win" when I'm white. I never take any time considering the draw offer. I just try to find the winning line.

--Fromper

Ziryab
tonydal wrote:

Funny position, Ziryab! Amazing that actually happened in one of your games...it looks so much like a tactics training-type problem (and definitely a resource easy to miss during play).


Thanks.

One of the benefits of saving my online blitz games is that I have a seemingly endless supply of tactics training problems from my own games, including quite a few stalemate traps that the unwary walked into. In this case, however, the position came from an OTB game against a talented junior. I was slightly higher rated when we played that game, but he made it into class A before I did.

marvellosity
Fromper wrote:
To me, offering me a draw outside an obviously dead drawn endgame is similar to my opponent telling me "white to play and win" when I'm white. I never take any time considering the draw offer. I just try to find the winning line.

--Fromper


So, the draw offer worked on you then. You're spending time looking for something that's probably not there :)

Fromper
marvellosity wrote:
Fromper wrote:
To me, offering me a draw outside an obviously dead drawn endgame is similar to my opponent telling me "white to play and win" when I'm white. I never take any time considering the draw offer. I just try to find the winning line.

--Fromper


So, the draw offer worked on you then. You're spending time looking for something that's probably not there :)


Not in blitz. In blitz games, I pretty much ignore draw offers. For me, the whole point of blitz is to play so many games that I don't care if I win or lose, just as long as I get to practice, so I become a better player for my long games. I was talking about what I do in slow games.