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internet blitz chess is a fun entertaining addictive video game. if you want to raise your blitz rating on this website, first do a couple hours of tactics trainer a day. play a computer at around 2000 elo a bunch of times until you are winning a lot. I promise you your blitz rating will jump considerably. but don't think your chess has improved all that much because of this, you're just seeing tactics faster, yours and the opponents. I would say a lot of blitz has to do with your apititude for, liking of video games really, how much you can get into video games. take them seriously etc. I think this is even more of a factor for chess enthusiasts and amateurs than for professionals, but it's still true on that level too.

 

someone on here wrote that increments drastically changes the nature of blitz, I don't think this is really true. it changes it a little, but not all that much really.

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The following thread has good arguments about blitz.

http://www.chessforums.org/chess-articles/8272-blitz-chess-how-help-improve-your-slow-game.html

I have nothing against blitz, but I think that it is a much poorer version, even if fun to play, then the long time control game. The only problem with blitz is addiction and the kind of mindframe it brings with it, so that I have seen people here stating that when playing long games, they don't need more than a few seconds to play "quality moves". Well, even if some of them are reasonable players, this characterizes, IMHO, chess myopia. Chessmasters use the time they have available intelligently. You can watch games in which kasparov, for instance, takes very long on multiple points of the game. But, perhaps, he's just thinking about dinner.

On an analogy to music, I may say that I listen mostly to classical music, but like Iron Maiden, also. Yet, I think that young people that listen to heavy metal only have extremely narrow horizons, in terms of music.  Heavy metal may be fun sometimes, but classical music brings a much richer repertoire of musical patterns combinations.

There are some serious studies, on the internet, about the cognitive processes involved in chess. Most of them conclude that fast chess is more linked to simple "rapid pattern recognition". Rapid recognition of patterns helps in long time control games, but long games are about much more than this. I'm not a great player, but I take my conclusion by watching games by professionals, both blitz and long and by some of those studies. 

There is a dissertation from a guy named Roring R. on the net, which is very detailed, in terms of statistics, and concludes that fast time controls contribute negatively to a player rating (considered for standard chess). I lost the link to this document and wasn't able to find it again using only the name of the author, but, maybe you should try.

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PLAYtoWINtheGAME wrote:

for the past couple of months, i have only played blitz. a few hundred 5 minute games. i can not improve. but my regular rating is 500 points higher than blitz. (1700-1200)so i dont suck. can anybody help me out here1!????


Id be glad to help you...Get a new keyboard.  You have some keys stuck on all caps.

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Some people play flag football and others 11v11, both use the same ball but its not the same game.  Its best to think the same way with Blitz vs reg. chess.

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UnratedGamesOnly wrote:
PLAYtoWINtheGAME wrote:

for the past couple of months, i have only played blitz. a few hundred 5 minute games. i can not improve. but my regular rating is 500 points higher than blitz. (1700-1200)so i dont suck. can anybody help me out here1!????


Id be glad to help you...Get a new keyboard.  You have some keys stuck on all caps.


i think your an idiot:)

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uhohspaghettio wrote:
PLAYtoWINtheGAME wrote:

to heinzie

your an idiot. do not post on this forum again. thank you


Amen to that. He's a god damned idiot. Everyone hates him. He's a useless joke poster, I can't believe the mods allow him to continue with it.


 Hilarious

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Estragon wrote:
PLAYtoWINtheGAME wrote:

i want to improve on my quick thinking though. nothing is working


 

There's your problem.  Improve your thinking first, then work on the speed of it.  Forget most blitz for a while.


this misses the point of the difference between blitz and standard time controls. when people are playing blitz, they aren't "thinking" real deep, coming up with intricate deep plans and such as you can do in longer time controls. I don't really understand what people don't get about this. why some people don't want to accept this. what the big deal is with it. it seems obvious to me. for all of us who aren't professional tournament players, it's essentially a fun addictive entertaining computer game, nothing more, nothing less. it isn't really actual chess. can be good exercise for tactics to an extent though. why are some people so adverse to this truth? what does it matter?

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See http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2009/01/blitz-addiction.html From one junkie to another: play more slow games, read more books. Get your fix solving tactics problems.
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i checked that out. i think blitz is an addiction. if i win i step away. if i lose, i hit that rematch button. 

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Bodhiwan wrote:
uhohspaghettio wrote:
PLAYtoWINtheGAME wrote:

to heinzie

your an idiot. do not post on this forum again. thank you


Amen to that. He's a god damned idiot. Everyone hates him. He's a useless joke poster, I can't believe the mods allow him to continue with it.


And as in heinzie's post above yours, he is now playing the victim, even though his first post in this thread was intended to offend the OP.


Hi I didn't intend to be the center of attention in this thread but I feel I still have some things to reply to here. My first reply in here was a direct question to my dear friend AndyClifton, who suggested simply quitting blitz as a solution to the OP's perceived problems. But when a void arises, nature somehow  requests us to fill that gap as quickly as possible. So what do we substitute blitz for? That was the question. Then Playtowinthegame made some observations that might seem rash - I had never seen writings of his before, but he seems to have taken notice of some of mine - which however might well be founded in truth, so I replied to it in all earnestness, I don't see either the victim/offending role. I do agree my irregular contributions on the chess.com forums can be trollerish in nature - however quite benign even if I say so myself - and am fully aware my semi-on-topic/semi-off-topic philosophical reflections or halfwit attempts are not always heartily conceived.

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My opinion is that the competition per rating is a lot harder in blitz than it is in online chess, bad moves, inaccuracies and all that is ok but I'm actually a bit offended when people make flat out blunders in online chess, when they have at least 24 hours to make a move, can use an analysis board, opening theory etc.

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true

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im 1700 3 daygames and like 1000 blitz lol

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940 , good idea, thanks

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I tried Blitz (10 min) lately and took me awhile to get used to it...then I switched back to longer time control (30 min) and took me again sometime to readjust to it. There are players out there who are gifted to excel on both without even trying. I guess it's all about mind conditioning how well you adapt, adjust and react. Practice is the key since you already have the main concept of tactical and analytic part of the game.