Bobby Fischer Lacked Creativity ?....How Dare I !

Okay okay. I just got in from the other side. I was visiting friends....and it was a lotta fun ! Anywayz, I wanna thank Stavros & Gouryella for defending me....and I'll hold back my opinion of those dissing me out and calling me something I'm not. That's bad news....and you know who you are !

Let's get back on topic, shall we ?

I have something to say.

I highly value chess compositions 'cuz it showcases creative talent. Saying that, we all know FIDE has the PCCC (Permament Commission for Chess Compositions) which gives out things like International GM titles for those with an impressive portfolio of creative compositions....which I feel is totally cool........

Alotta people don't know this, but FIDE recognizes (10) established Schools of Composition. One school is the Bohemian School, w/ their main focus being Artistic Beauty. Another is the Progressive Bohemian School, which is basically a hybrid of the New German School & the conventional Bohemian School. Don't ask me to define them all....you can ez'ly look it up - if you're interested.

I would be happy to extend BF more creative credit if he had made some compositions. He didn't that I know of, and that's just another reason why I question his creativity over the chessboard.

I'm gonna go exercise. I'll check back in later.

In a sport or a competitive game, the objective is clearly specified. It is to win within the rules. And the aim of chess is very clearly specified: to win on the board. Chess ain't synchronised swimming: there are no points for artistic impression.

blah...blah...blah. And thanks for the lock out on your thread. It is long dead anyway. Lala knows how to treat me far, far better. 

@Harvey_Wallbanger

Innuendo?

Rockstar....chess is not a sport it is a board game. And to exclusively call it a competitive game is actually just your opinion. There is artistry and comraderie abound in this game.

And in regards to your "....the aim of chess is very clearly specified: to win on the board."....well, tell that to a chessplayer who makes $ "hustling". They lose on purpose all the time....they say.

Do you know the definition of "Narrow" ?

   Serious chess players such as, for example, those who have studied and played for >10,000 hours (which includes me) play to win. Then they study, practice and play to win some more. After that, they...well, repeat the process on and on forever (and then some).

   Too, there are chess players who never study. Some play chess a lot and some play infrequently. But they play "seat of the pants"...aka "Bohemian" (I like to call it "Beatnik" because I go back to that era) chess. Why? Because they have never really studied and don't want to bother. They haven't "paid their dues". Chess is just for "fun".

   Now, I am in the first category. Yet, on occasion, I'll meet with a friend at a coffee shop for a social game of chess. I'll spot them a R. We'll have social conversation during the game, as we drink coffee and smoke expensive cigars.

   Some like to play a mindless blitz game. But in my age bracket, they mostly play very, very slow. Bores me to tears. I have to remind them "Did you make your move?" or "Is it still your move?"

   With them, I would prefer to use a clock. But players like this are uncomfortable with a clock...they feel "rushed". So, I don't use a clock. Sometimes, I'll go to the restroom and when I come out, they still need 5 or 10 minutes to make a simple move.

   See? This is when I am playing "Bohemian", "Beatnik" chess. I will sometimes make a very, very bold play and end up losing my Q. Spot them a R and then lose my Q!!! Yet, I still always win.

   On a few (but rare) occasions, it has even been suggested (in jest) that maybe I was cheating. Hilarious. People often and undeservedly think they are so damn smart. They can't seem to appreciate that chess is a game of skill and takes very great effort to improve beyond 1200.

   Maybe I should "throw" a game here or there, just to make them feel good. But that is not how we seriouse chess players play. Sorry, I beat you 150 times, now we go for 151...that's just how it is. Also, what more than a R do you want me to spot you?

   Yes, yes, a nice coffee house game of chess with a friend and a lot of banter is a pleasant, occasional treat. Beatnik chess. Bohemian chess...and we don't need no steenkin' clock!

you say it best

when you say nothing at all.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCpom1z2BMg

Look no further than Fischer (age 13) vs Donald Byrne 1956 "Game of the Century", in response to "lack of creativity". 

....and something else. I'm sick & tired of listening to ppl analyze blitz games w/ hours to do so !

If you're an 1800 chessplayer, and you're analyzing a game w/, say 30 moves ?....then the player got 300 seconds (5 minutes)/30 moves - or 10 seconds per move for figuring. I would think tripling that to 30 seconds/move would be more than fair for organic analysis.

Honor System here !....you don't get leisure time to analyze, and then post game errors....get real.

Fair enuf ?....and you know who I'm aiming this post at........

Compositions are not OTB games. Can someone pleez define a Chess Composition for us ?....for the record ?

This is cryptic and unintelligible. Would you care to elaborate?

....and philosophically, chess really isn't something you're trying to win at Rockstar.

I read that BF once said that "Chess is life". I could not disagree more, 'cuz it's not that broad reaching. Chess is discovery....and discovery is just a subset of life (....and probably the funnest part to me !). Discovering who you are, your capabilities, the game's inner beauty, the creativity inside you, etc.

I say play the game not to win....but to discover. And if you win too ?....then I'm happy 4u ! But, don't make yourself a big deal. And remember, your opponent helped you w/ their inaccuracy someplace somewhere. So, you don't get all the credit....you got some help along the way.

If you're trying to purely win in chess, than you're doing yourself more harm than good. So, stop the powertrip and join the bohemian side. We really do know what's best 4u........

Bohemians must not care about  eating regularly ... 

Now we're going somewhere Stavros....and TY for trying to understand how I feel....

....and to the person who said that a Bohemian Chess Artist (BCA) is my made up word ? Well, it kinda is & kinda isn't. Remember, there are Bohemian Chess Composers. And that's not made up 'cuz FIDE basically has that formal classification....complete w/ its own Int'l GM's.

It just happens to be the two FIDE Schools I follow now & again....The Bohemian and Progressive Bohemian Schools. It's interesting to see what they're doing....how they're adding their own brand of artistry and beauty to this game.

Back in the '50ies, here is what beatniks (Bohemians) looked like:

   If you were to have played chess with them, you would have to have had to worry about catching fleas. (Did I get the tenses right?...lol)

you're out of time.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D00M2KZH1J0

Yes, but he's still is the man that I once knew....aren't you "Harvey".

I'm the Daddy-o, you can dig it chick...far out...groovy.

Boney M Daddy Cool

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY