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MaetsNori

This original post's assertion is simply incorrect.

Judit Polgar was the top-rated female player in the world by 1988, at 12 years old, and already in the world top 100. She was, at that point, already being described as "one of the greatest chess prodigies in history". She was rising nearly 200 points a year.

Fischer did not meet and stay with the Polgars until 1993 - 5 years later. By that point, Judit was already a potent Grandmaster who had scored wins against world Top-10 players.

Bobby, long-retired, would have certainly taught Polgar a few things about chess, yes. However, young Judit - rising the ranks in a newer, stronger generation of players - would have certainly taught him a few things, as well.

badger_song
stxschlsv wrote:

Judit Polgar is strongest female chess player. I want to bring light to why she is so strong.

Did you know that Bobby Fischer stayed at the Polgar's home when he was running from USA? Yes he did, and he played and analyzed many chess and chess 960 games with Judit Polgar. After Bobby Fischer's stay, Judit Polgar won everything for years to come.

And the result of a grandmasters impact on such a young mind is the now top rating of Judit Polgar. Would she have been over 2700 rating if it was not for Bobby Fischer? I do not think so. Bobby Fischer lifted Judit Polgar that extra mile by showing her how to think like those absolutely best. And he did so in the right time in her life.

So here you have it, another contribution from Fischer to chess: The making of the strongest female chess player.

Where,oh where, would we even start with that claim? Cause and effect in extremely difficult to prove,and rightly so. That kind of argument is inductive, and those arguments will never give you certainty. The best you can do is present a mountain of data showing how Polgar's performance is tied to Fischer's direct intervention, and that is next to impossible. Your claim is a great big nada.

This is a troll thread.

magipi
badger_song wrote:

This is a troll thread.

Yes it is. And you guys keep it alive even 5 years after the OP quit chess. Good job!

HossainZunaid

@chessadvance2 So, you are comparing bobby with polgar?

guess-the-photo
stxschlsv escribió:

Judit Polgar is strongest female chess player. I want to bring light to why she is so strong.

Did you know that Bobby Fischer stayed at the Polgar's home when he was running from USA? Yes he did, and he played and analyzed many chess and chess 960 games with Judit Polgar. After Bobby Fischer's stay, Judit Polgar won everything for years to come.

And the result of a grandmasters impact on such a young mind is the now top rating of Judit Polgar. Would she have been over 2700 rating if it was not for Bobby Fischer? I do not think so. Bobby Fischer lifted Judit Polgar that extra mile by showing her how to think like those absolutely best. And he did so in the right time in her life.

So here you have it, another contribution from Fischer to chess: The making of the strongest female chess player.

False. Bobby Fischer never played Judit Polgar. He played against her sister Susan Polgar Fischer Random chess. Probably you misread the source.

magipi
guess-the-photo wrote:

Probably you misread the source.

You told him good! Only 6 years too late.

Temporary_Closed-backsoon

Honestly what crap is this. Have I ever seen such an absurd claim

guess-the-photo

I have recently read this today.

I am deeply surprised none of you during this time has been informed properly.

Bobby Fischer never played against Judit Polgar because he has the idea of playing vs Judit in a virgin future match. A match that never happened.

magipi
guess-the-photo wrote:

I am deeply surprised none of you during this time has been informed properly.

A lot of people told the OP that he is talking complete nonsense. 6 years ago.

Whether Bobby and Judit played against each other is pretty much irrelevant. They may have played practice games - although Judit does not mention this in her autobiography, so probably not.

guess-the-photo

No, no no. it is very relevant. Judit is the best chess female ever and Bobby Fischer probably the greatest chess male ever.

I listened Judit in a public interviewed telling specifically that Fischer nerver wanted to play against her even a single practice game, What is strange to her "A practice game is not a big deal".She said...but Fischer wished to create a public match introducing the event like "the first time she and he play together."

it is obvious that Judit is not happy in being the only Polgar sister who missed the chance to play Bobby.

JeremyCrowhurst

Why are you reviving this ridiculous thread?

premio53

Judit Polgar became as strong as she did because she refused to play in women only tournaments. She said so herself.

"Female chess players, like me, thrive when they play against the world’s best men."

"I became the youngest grandmaster in the world, breaking the record set by Bobby Fischer more than three decades earlier. It turned out that I was not able to become the overall world champion, but I always strived to fulfil this ambition – and at my peak, I was the eighth highest ranked player in the world."

"I could never have reached those heights if I had only been interested in winning women’s titles. In fact, I was only a teenager when I last participated in a women’s tournament – representing Hungary, with my older sisters Zsúzsa and Zsófia as my teammates, in the 1990 Women’s Chess Olympiad. It was great fun, but the chess itself wasn’t very challenging."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/30/chess-grandmaster-women-only-tournament-play-men

I was watching the 2023 isle of man chess tournament yesterday and GM Daniel Naroditsky was talking about the young chess talent Alice Lee and how she is the youngest American female player to achieve the IM title. He said she had a great future in the coming years in "women's chess." He doesn't expect her to ever compete against the top men because she is a woman. Judit was the only woman in history to break 2700 and she will always be the only one to have ever achieved that unless women expect more of themselves.

magipi
JeremyCrowhurst wrote:

Why are you reviving this ridiculous thread?

Why are you talking to a spambot? Just report it.

HongyueLiu

magipi or whatever your name is just saying I reported that guy

RichColorado

OOPS . . . THIS IS FISCHER WITH SUSAN . . . SORRY . . .

guess-the-photo

This is not Judit Polgar´s photo.

JeremyCrowhurst

It's Susan.

guess-the-photo

Right.

EscherehcsE

Judit, Susan... She's a Polgar, though...

Mazetoskylo

It's not a secret that the trainer of Judit since 1992 and for many years was GM Alexander Chernin. All that Fischer theories are FUD.