breaking news Carlsens blunders away a winning position

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trotters64

Magnus was very instructional today when he showed us how to turn a winning position into a draw in one blunderful stroke. Karjakin found himself with both of his bishops locked out of an endgame and it seemed all magnus had to do was grind away in his usual style to win. But no! all of a sudden he allowed sergey to sac a knight in return for two pawns whilst at the same time freeing up both his bishops and providing karjakin with 2 connected passed centre pawns ..unbelievable move by Magnus . 

This game adds furthur proof that Carlsen does crack from time to time...good news for Vishy.

Shivsky

Just a bit ... guessing the precision with which he ripped apart Naka is probably going to worry him a lot more than Carlsen throwing away a win or two for a draw.  Boy wonder is still growing in power ... middle-earth is doomed! :)

trotters64
Shivsky wrote:

Just a bit ... guessing the precision with which he ripped apart Naka is probably going to worry him a lot more than Carlsen throwing away a win or two for a draw.  Boy wonder is still growing in power ... middle-earth is doomed! :)

I think that Naka may well get his revenge on sunday when he has the white pieces ..he nearly beat magnus last time they met with Naka as white ..this time he will show the world what a player he is 

With regards to Vishy v Magnus,Vishy  has an abundance of world championship experience to draw upon and if he shows his best form he can put magnus under pressure and he might crack.

bouncing_check

I wouldn't use words like "blunder" and "crack" ... he turned a maybe won position into an easily drawn one through a small mistake, played after about 18 hours otherwise brilliant chess in the last 3 days!

TheRocketKing
rajnikant001 wrote:

there once was a documentary made by NatGeo on Judit Polgar showcasing how chess players brain work.

i hope that NatGeo considers making another dcumentary on carlsen

there are already a documentary and carlsen explains how he is thinking when playin chess, actually there are 2 documentaries available!

trotters64
bouncing_check wrote:

I wouldn't use words like "blunder" and "crack" ... he turned a maybe won position into an easily drawn one through a small mistake, played after about 18 hours otherwise brilliant chess in the last 3 days!

yes Carlsen was brilliant right up until the moment that he wasn't ..I must say I was very pleased to see that he too can make pretty obvious mistakes..very amusing so it was.

bouncing_check
trotters64 wrote:

yes Carlsen was brilliant right up until the moment that he wasn't ...

Lol very well put! I'm a great fan of Carlsen but I must say I was half gunning for Karjakin before and during the game - that great endgame of his v. Svidler in the Candidates had shown that he's capable of brilliant endgame strokes, and someone has to keep Carlsen on his toes otherwise things could get monotonous. Great game, looking forward to the return!

trotters64
bouncing_check wrote:
trotters64 wrote:

yes Carlsen was brilliant right up until the moment that he wasn't ...

Lol very well put! I'm a great fan of Carlsen but I must say I was half gunning for Karjakin before and during the game - that great endgame of his v. Svidler in the Candidates had shown that he's capable of brilliant endgame strokes, and someone has to keep Carlsen on his toes otherwise things could get monotonous. Great game, looking forward to the return!

+1

trotters64
Dudido111 wrote:

This is not a surprise or any exception that Magnus playing dubious or idiotic moves in any game... Follow his games from past 3 years you will find bad and below quality moves at least a hundred of times... There are examples of games where he even missed a immediate win by not capturing a piece or throwing out his own pieces as a gift to his opponents... So do not panic you will c so many more and worse from him in near and later time...

Yes you are right of course ...it just seems a long time has passed since I last saw Magnus make a mistake but that is probably only because he has been fairly inactive since he won the world title.

pawnstogo
FirebrandX wrote:

Tip of the hat to Nakamura for bouncing back from a loss to Carlsen and crushing Shak in the process. Usually Nakamura plays badly the next day after getting spanked by Carlsen.

How can you be so sure?

trotters64
FirebrandX wrote:

Tip of the hat to Nakamura for bouncing back from a loss to Carlsen and crushing Shak in the process. Usually Nakamura plays badly the next day after getting spanked by Carlsen.

I look forward to the day that Naka spanks Carlsen ..this coming sunday he will have the white pieces ; fingers crossed.

TheRocketKing

LOL I can just imagine what would happen when carlsen loses a game, then everybody would complain that he is slumping and heart-breaking news!

WanderingPuppet

despite the engine eval. i'm not even sure if it was winning for black and if it is, it's very deep, even for engines.

trotters64
Petrosianic wrote:

despite the engine eval. i'm not even sure if it was winning for black and if it is, it's very deep, even for engines.

Magnus seemed to be pretty sure in the post match press conference that he was winning prior to his mistake.

nemo100

The peak engine eval was like -0.54, Carlsen didnt throw away an obvious win

dmxn2k

It's funny that a man who hasn't lost in the last nearly two years is being called out for his oh so many mistakes....

trotters64
nemo100 wrote:

The peak engine eval was like -0.54, Carlsen didnt throw away an obvious win

-.54 is usually an obvious win for Magnus ...seriously though ,Magnus himself said that he thought he was winning until his mistake.

nemo100

So now Carlsen has to play absolutely perfectly? Wow.

CP6033
dmxn2k wrote:

It's funny that a man who hasn't lost in the last nearly two years is being called out for his oh so many mistakes....

actually, Caruana beat him in the Tal Memorial, And Svidler and Ivanchuck beat him in the candidates both with black! that said, Carlsen is amazing, and even though he didn't win a position where he was better, I'd like to see anyone who has posted in this forum masters included win that ending against Karjakin, I am 99% sure Karkakin draw, Ok so Carlsen should have played Nf4, but that is easy for us to see with our Houdini's Stockfish's and Fritz's.

trotters64
CP6033 wrote:
dmxn2k wrote:

It's funny that a man who hasn't lost in the last nearly two years is being called out for his oh so many mistakes....

actually, Caruana beat him in the Tal Memorial, And Svidler and Ivanchuck beat him in the candidates both with black! that said, Carlsen is amazing, and even though he didn't win a position where he was better, I'd like to see anyone who has posted in this forum masters included win that ending against Karjakin, I am 99% sure Karkakin draw, Ok so Carlsen should have played Nf4, but that is easy for us to see with our Houdini's Stockfish's and Fritz's.

You didn't need an engine to see that it was unwise to allow the bishops their liberty ..probably Magnus was tired after 6 hours today and 6 hours yesterday.