Can God make an engine so strong that he can not beat it?

I know. Here is the game that got him thrown out:

God is omnipotent because he's so powerful he would create a chess engine that can not be beaten, but cannot beat him....

Okay than that means that God can not make such an engine, and is therefore incapable of something, and not omnipotent. If something has to already exist for god to make it than he is not omnipotent he is impotent.

@Rybkat: your reasoning is not sound.

If God is perfect and part of being perfect is the ability to create a chess engine, then demands this reasoning that this chess engine will play perfect chess. If perfect chess means that white will win, then will God lose from that engine when God plays with black. If chess is a draw, then will any game between God and that chess engine end in a draw.

The wrong assumption in your reasoning is that omnipotent means that God should always win. Winning and losing is not part of perfect, omnipotent behaviour. There is no need for an omnipotent being to rank itself in comparison to other beings. God is not like a king of all kings. Your viewpoint on omnipotent and winning is sooo human. :-)

                    Your all a bunch of idiots thinking that your illusional beliefs in chess can transcend your understanding of God. Boy are you in for a surprise when you die. Many people smarter than you, and the Catholic Church has wrestled with this question for centuries, so give it your best shot. I'm game for a laugh, its 3am. 

But if God is perfect he will never lose EVER. If his engine is perfect it will never lose EVER. No matter what there is something that he can not do! I think that you probably understand this yourself (because it is common sense), but don't want to admit it (not even to yourself) because you like the idea of an omnipotent god. And you would like to believe that you are never really going to die because you will go to heaven. This is what you were brainwashed to believe since birth so I do understand why you are so unwilling to open your mind to the truth, but that does not make it acceptable. 

"make such an engine"

Again what engine are you referring to? Are you trying to say God can't make non-existent things (in all possible worlds)? I would agree... except that non-existent things aren't really things -- it's a contradiction in terms. Saying God can't make a non-existent thing is as meaningful as saying God can't make "erhguierhfiwehrf." I don't feel like I'm being informed about anything when a person utters such a sentence.

                   I guess the one thing God can't do is to get you to beleive in him Rybkat. Oh well, ignorance IS Bliss.    " you are so unwilling to open your mind to the truth". You have no trouble dishing out the BS, you just can't swallow your own medicine.

"Many people smarter than you" You have no idea how smart I am so you can not say that, and the catholic church is full of shit. When I die I will not be in for a surprise, because I will cease to exist, and no longer be able to be surprised simple as that. It does not take an intelligent person to see this, but even though most people are capable of realizing this most people do not want to believe it. People are afraid of death, and would like to believe that they are going somewhere else when they die. It is scary to know that you will actually die, but it is the truth. People like to think that they are important; that we are here for a purpose, but that is not the case.

NOTHING can exist before it is created. If I told you about it than it would be my creation not God's. Why can't you understand this simple concept?

You're right ignorance is bliss. Just keep telling yourself that you're going to go to heaven so that you won't be afraid of dying. Bliss...

I think the issue is that man created chess, not God. So for you to ask God to form something perfect out of an "imperfect game" made by imperfect people is... well.... 

Oh! Yes, he can. He'd make chess different and make it a game where he and the chess engine both win. Ixo Factso.

God would be cheating if he did that, but nevermind I'll just ask you another question that I don't think god can cheat his way out of. Can God make a stone so heavy that he can not lift it?

                    "you have no idea how smart/stupid I am"   "people like to think they are important".        Sound familiar??

Ah, the unstoppable force vs. the immovable object paradox...shall we also take this time to postulate nothingness?  What other high school philopsophy dilemmas can we debate?

I wasn't trying to say I was a genius in that statement. I was only saying that you could not possibly know how intelligent I was, because in one of your posts you claimed to.

                     Can God make a stone so heavy that he can not lift it??        Are you gonna try and take credit for that question??

"NOTHING can exist before it is created."

Sure; I thought it was obvious to assume we were talking about any possible thing, whether or not it's here right now. For example, we can, quite coherently, talk of a "perfect chess playing engine" even though one does not exist in this world; we can simply imagine. Yet even if we "cheat" like this we still can't talk of this "engine" that God cannot create, no matter what possible world we postulate.

Again, the only possible way I can imagine you are trying to imagine this "engine" is by labeling it as a "non-existent engine," and saying God can't make that. But again, "non-existent engine" is a contradiction in terms and refers to nothing, just like gibberish.

                  I claimed to know based upon the ignorance you displayed in a previous statement.

I have opened my mind to the truth. I used to be a Christian until I was 13 years old. I believed the same things that you did, and if someone challenged my beliefs I would become very angry. I, like you, would refuse to listen to anything I didn't want to hear. The only difference was I was only child. You are an adult, and should know better.