Can I be rich playing chess?

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Shivsky

I think what's fundamentally missing in the OP's post is an awareness of how insanely big the "skill spectrum" is in this game  going from rank beginner to a Super GM. Another common misconception is that jumps in the rating classes (D to B to Expert to GM) require "linear" amounts of work + knowledge.

The weaker you are, the more surmountable you think this game's complexity is.

When I started out, I used to think a Master was just a guy who spotted forks better than I did.  :)

bigpoison
Gizmodeus wrote:

You never know unless you try.  You got alot of people here telling you it's impossible, but nothing is impossible. 


This is, easily, one of the most deluded platitudes that is thrown around very frequently.

There are plenty of things that are impossible.

Frankdawg
Saturnian2 wrote:

Say if I become really good at chess and even better than kasparov and Anand, win tournament and championship and such, will I become a millionaire?


I'm sure you would be able to become a millionaire if your level of skill at chess could rival Kasparov or Anand.

However... that is not very likely.

Imagine a person who plays chess 12 hours a day, eats sleeps and drinks chess chess and more chess... Even for a person who does that becoming simply a grand master is extremely difficult and what you are saying is not just simply becoming a grandmaster, but one who is better than Kasparov.

Trying to be better at chess than Kasparov would be like trying to be better at basketball than Micheal Jordan, if you got a lot of talent and tryed your hardest you could maybe get in the NBA if you are very lucky, but to be a person of Jordans stature? Even much less likely and once you get to the NBA its not vs college or high school kids anymore, your playing professional athletes same would go for chess after you became a grandmaster and entered some tournuments. You wouldn't be up against a guy like me or the other posters anymore, you would be up against GMs who are masters of chess and would realize the level of that competition is extremely high.

Focus on becoming a GM or IM first, worry about being better than Kasparov after you have gotten that far.

If you did make it to becoming a GM you probably wouldn't make millions off chess, but you could sell some books, coach some players and even compete for some money but probably not millions unless you moved up the rating board into a top level tourney.

rnunesmagalhaes
Frankdawg wrote:
Saturnian2 wrote:

Say if I become really good at chess and even better than kasparov and Anand, win tournament and championship and such, will I become a millionaire?


I'm sure you would be able to become a millionaire if your level of skill at chess could rival Kasparov or Anand.

However... that is not very likely.

Imagine a person who plays chess 12 hours a day, eats sleeps and drinks chess chess and more chess... Even for a person who does that becoming simply a grand master is extremely difficult and what you are saying is not just simply becoming a grandmaster, but one who is better than Kasparov.

Trying to be better at chess than Kasparov would be like trying to be better at basketball than Micheal Jordan, if you got a lot of talent and tryed your hardest you could maybe get in the NBA if you are very lucky, but to be a person of Jordans stature? Even much less likely and once you get to the NBA its not vs college or high school kids anymore, your playing professional athletes same would go for chess after you became a grandmaster and entered some tournuments. You wouldn't be up against a guy like me or the other posters anymore, you would be up against GMs who are masters of chess and would realize the level of that competition is extremely high.

Focus on becoming a GM or IM first, worry about being better than Kasparov after you have gotten that far.

If you did make it to becoming a GM you probably wouldn't make millions off chess, but you could sell some books, coach some players and even compete for some money but probably not millions unless you moved up the rating board into a top level tourney.


Don't listen to this my friend, you'll be as good as you want to. You can do anything you put your mind and soul to. If people don't become GMs it's just because they haven't wanted it enough. Amen.

TheGrobe

I'm sorry, this is simply not grounded in reality.  I'm afraid you've missed the boat on the opportunity to become a Super Grandmaster, as have I.

firefox75

chess is a good mental exercise. Don't think their is lot of money for a living in chess. You have to work hard in life in order to become rich but not in chess.

TheGrobe

Certainly there are other places that effort could (and should) be focused if your goal is ultimately to make money.

diggerlloyd

can you beat all on this site? NO ive checked you out .terrible so far!

diggerlloyd

Hi if you can beat all of your opponents on this site then you can repost your question!

diggerlloyd

looking at your last games no!

Sofademon

Setting aside the question of if the OP can make money on chess, can anyone make money on chess?  I think that Anand once said that maybe the top 50 players in the world make the kind of income that other sports figures would consider solid (not an exact quote but the general idea).  There is a larger group of people who probably make a living between prize money, appearance fees, exhibitions, writing, coaching, etc.  Not great money, but pay the rent and keep the fridge full.  Unless one has vast natural talent, a start at a young age, and no other real options, plan on getting a day job.  There are alot of IM and even GMs that need other income to get buy.  You have to be among the elite of the elite of the elite to be even approaching anything one might consider "rich".

C-Saw
I suppose you know diddly Loomis... I thought his answer was adequate. Let's hear your answer. This is a plague on the internet. Someone who doesn't know diddly about the subject feels the need to chime in anyway.
TheGrobe

I thought WalkItDown was already clear on this:  Loomis knows diddly.

robertfisner
Chessgod123
echecs06 wrote:

Maybe you could lower the bar and try to become a "professional chess player".


 Or at least lose less than 8 times more than you win?

Loomis
C-Saw wrote:
I suppose you know diddly Loomis... I thought his answer was adequate. Let's hear your answer. This is a plague on the internet. Someone who doesn't know diddly about the subject feels the need to chime in anyway.

Are you kidding me? His answer was adequate? Need me to break it down for you?

In answer to the question "If I become better [at chesss] than kasparov and Anand... will I become a millionaire?"

WalkItDown responded (in red):

> It depends.

What else could it depend on? The guy already stipulated he would be better than the two best players of the last 25 years and win championships.

Kasparov moved into politics from (and thanks to) his chess career, and is making good money probably. 

This is just silly. Kasparov made millions of dollars winning chess tournaments and matches and certainly loses money participating in politics. The answer is totally backward.

 Like with everything else, if you get famous or semi famous with chess it opens up doors for many other things.

As already pointed out, a player who is the best in the world will make millions from chess winnings. The idea that one has to parlay chess fame into some other kind of income is misleading to the original question.

Pro chess players make a living out of chess but I don't know how much exactly.

At least he admits he doesn't know what he's talking about. The answer on the whole was still a disservice to the original poster.

There was no need for me to give a detailed answer as other posters before me had already done that.

JonArgyle
Loomis wrote:

Kasparov moved into politics from (and thanks to) his chess career, and is making good money probably. 

This is just silly. Kasparov made millions of dollars winning chess tournaments and matches and certainly loses money participating in politics.


 No matter what you may know about chess, you clearly do not know the first thing about politics.

TheGrobe

To be clear, that was Loomis quoting WalkItDown -- they way it's quoted above it makes it appear as though those are Loomis' words, which they are not.

caseyFgriffin

Magnus Carlsen recently reported in the "New Yorker" that the tourney winnings combined with his sponsorships etc ( but not counting his modeling ) he is making over a million USD a year. 

kco

to the OP, yes you can....marry a rich girl and play chess.