can i be successful in chess without coach

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MegasAlexandros86 wrote:
masterfowler wrote:
MegasAlexandros86 wrote:
masterfowler wrote:

i struggle to see a player reaching 2000 without some form of guidance from a stronger player...even 1800 seems a bit of a long shot

I am 2000+ without any coach... but now i have one as my new goal is 2200-2300. But 2000 or 2100 can be achieved on your own if you train SMART: quality, not quantity.

thats pretty amazing☺☺☺ how did you do it?☺

 

Books : Strategy: Aagaard positional play and strategiec play, they have positional puzzles, MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than tactical puzzles, did them 3 times to ABSORB all the ideas and maneuvers.

 

+ 2 books on endgames, 3 books on openings, a book with pawn structure, 4 books on tactics.

 

All the books I studied had exercises ( for example how do you make a square for a piece, how to improve your worst piece, how to force a better endgame, etc)

 

MegasAlexandros86,

 

Should I get Aagaard's books too or are they not for my level. Can you suggest something for my level.

pdve
Derekjj wrote:
pdve wrote:

It is s a function of natural ability which is just a given. You can't change it. Whatever your level is, getting a coach will improve your game dramatically. You can get personal guidance.

And we should take advice from you?

 

Im just stating the obvious. What is your argument with what I said. Do you not think that there is something called natural ability?

Derekjj
pdve wrote:
Derekjj wrote:
pdve wrote:

It is s a function of natural ability which is just a given. You can't change it. Whatever your level is, getting a coach will improve your game dramatically. You can get personal guidance.

And we should take advice from you?

 

Im just stating the obvious. What is your argument with what I said. Do you not think that there is something called natural ability?

No, but I find it difficult to listen to anyone from that country.

Imaak
MegasAlexandros86 wrote:
masterfowler wrote:
MegasAlexandros86 wrote:
masterfowler wrote:

i struggle to see a player reaching 2000 without some form of guidance from a stronger player...even 1800 seems a bit of a long shot

I am 2000+ without any coach... but now i have one as my new goal is 2200-2300. But 2000 or 2100 can be achieved on your own if you train SMART: quality, not quantity.

thats pretty amazing☺☺☺ how did you do it?☺

 

Books : Strategy: Aagaard positional play and strategiec play, they have positional puzzles, MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than tactical puzzles, did them 3 times to ABSORB all the ideas and maneuvers.

 

+ 2 books on endgames, 3 books on openings, a book with pawn structure, 4 books on tactics.

 

All the books I studied had exercises ( for example how do you make a square for a piece, how to improve your worst piece, how to force a better endgame, etc)

are books enough for impoving the game

pdve
MegasAlexandros86 wrote:
pdve wrote:
MegasAlexandros86 wrote:
masterfowler wrote:
MegasAlexandros86 wrote:
masterfowler wrote:

i struggle to see a player reaching 2000 without some form of guidance from a stronger player...even 1800 seems a bit of a long shot

I am 2000+ without any coach... but now i have one as my new goal is 2200-2300. But 2000 or 2100 can be achieved on your own if you train SMART: quality, not quantity.

thats pretty amazing☺☺☺ how did you do it?☺

 

Books : Strategy: Aagaard positional play and strategiec play, they have positional puzzles, MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than tactical puzzles, did them 3 times to ABSORB all the ideas and maneuvers.

 

+ 2 books on endgames, 3 books on openings, a book with pawn structure, 4 books on tactics.

 

All the books I studied had exercises ( for example how do you make a square for a piece, how to improve your worst piece, how to force a better endgame, etc)

 

MegasAlexandros86,

 

Should I get Aagaard's books too or are they not for my level. Can you suggest something for my level.

Positional play is good for you, it will teach you a lot of ideas, positional maneuvers and how to think with the 3 questions: what are my weakness (and oponents), what is my worst place piece and what is my oponent plan. Each chapter has 25 exercises + 150 positional exercises at the end. It's one of the best books ever.

 

Ok, I'll give it a shot.

1hey

Derekjj wrote:

pdve wrote:
Derekjj wrote:
pdve wrote:

It is s a function of natural ability which is just a given. You can't change it. Whatever your level is, getting a coach will improve your game dramatically. You can get personal guidance.

And we should take advice from you?

 

Im just stating the obvious. What is your argument with what I said. Do you not think that there is something called natural ability?

No, but I find it difficult to listen to anyone from that country.

respect india

Derekjj
1hey wrote:
Derekjj wrote:
pdve wrote:
Derekjj wrote:
pdve wrote:

It is s a function of natural ability which is just a given. You can't change it. Whatever your level is, getting a coach will improve your game dramatically. You can get personal guidance.

And we should take advice from you?

 

Im just stating the obvious. What is your argument with what I said. Do you not think that there is something called natural ability?

No, but I find it difficult to listen to anyone from that country.

respect india

No thanks.

masterfowler

are those books published by quality chess?

masterfowler

are those books published by quality chess?

Skinnyhorse

     You do have coaches that will help you.  Some of them are named Stockfish, Komodo and Fritz 15 and once purchased will work for free. The latest generation chess engines can search so deeply that they will find positionally sound moves for you. 

     Check your games against the suggestions of the computers and when there is a large disagreement, try to figure out why the computer made its suggestion.  You can learn a lot about your chess in that manner. 

     Just thinking.....

DMGame

Bogus Response:

You defiantly need a coach to get better. Speaking of which I charge lessons at 2 dollars every 2 hours. Good coach at good price happy.png You need me to help you. 

 

True response. 

You don't need a coach to get better. It can help but there are plenty of self non coached strong players. 

president_max

i am successful. i know the en passant.  and i got there without a coach.  you can too.

ChePlaSsYer
gingerninja2003 wrote:

yes by learning the game yourself.

do you think anyone told Mikhail Tal to do insane sacrifices that probably won't work but to do them anyway.

Just when you thought Mikhail Tal could not be misunderstood even more...

dpnorman

YES. But to make up for a lack of a coach, you must then have a lot of friends who are much stronger than you who can teach you stuff

ChePlaSsYer

Fischer did not have a coach. But this is not the 60s so I do not know.

urk
Fischer had a coach - Jack Collins was his name I think.
I believe he coached him for years.
ChePlaSsYer

Oh yeah, I forgot, he also had one in his first years, his last name was Nigro or DeNigro.

Well OP, looks like you can not be succesful without a coach.

It also depends on what you mean by succesful.

Bishop_g5

Fischer learned from Collins Jack shit! What Collins did is to provide Fischer an environment to develop he's talent even more. Later he said : Genious like Fischer it's difficult to teach them something, they born to understand things by their own. Jack Collins teached chess to the Byrne Brothers. Both were he's pupils and in the years that came both suffered heavy defeats against Fischer.

Fischer was not the example using coach to reach he's destiny that time.

CrimeanHorseArcher
gingerninja2003 wrote:

yes by learning the game yourself.

do you think anyone told Mikhail Tal to do insane sacrifices that probably won't work but to do them anyway.

 

Of Course We think, Rashid Nezhmetdinov thought Tal the art of sacrifice

Bgabor91

Dear Lmaak,

I am a certified, full-time chess coach, so I hope I can help you. happy.png Everybody is different, so that's why there isn't only one general way to learn. First of all, you have to discover your biggest weaknesses in the game and start working on them. The most effective way for that is analysing your own games. Of course, if you are a beginner, you can't do it efficiently because you don't know too much about the game yet. There is a built-in engine on chess.com which can show you if a move is good or bad but the only problem that it can't explain you the plans, ideas behind the moves, so you won't know why is it so good or bad.

You can learn from books or Youtube channels as well, and maybe you can find a lot of useful information there but these sources are mostly general things and not personalized at all. That's why you need a good coach sooner or later if you really want to be better at chess. A good coach can help you with identifying your biggest weaknesses and explain everything, so you can leave your mistakes behind you. Of course, you won't apply everything immediately, this is a learning process (like learning languages), but if you are persistent and enthusiastic, you will achieve your goals. happy.png

In my opinion, chess has 4 main territories (openings, strategies, tactics/combinations and endgames). If you want to improve efficiently, you should improve all of these skills almost at the same time. That's what my training program is based on. My students really like it because the lessons are not boring (because we talk about more than one areas within one lesson) and they feel the improvement on the longer run. Of course, there are always ups and downs but this is completely normal in everyone's career. happy.png

I hope this is helpful for you. happy.png  Good luck for your chess games! happy.png