My brother "can't be beaten" ?

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I disagree about that. It might be acceptable for the official games because they can't really control it, much like how it is accepted for CC games. In a friendly game, it's more of going on your honour not to cheat.

It's just a debate. I didn't see any indication people needed to relax. No need to apologize, but thank you.

Consider how long philosophical debates can go on for, and about what? Wink

checklate1

I didn't envision my post garnering this much attention,  or turn into a debate, but I think it's a healthy one.  

I've not been playing long, but I'm a fast learner.   I came to this site to learn, not to get a shortcut.   So far, so good.  In addition to the short education I've recieved on the rules, I've also learned different ways to look at the game that I wouldn't have thought of if I had not posted. For those that've helped, I thank you.  Afterall, we're here to learn and become better players, right?

Rsava

Absolutely. And after you are finished with your game, post it and ask for analysis. 

You have been recording your moves, right? That is imperative to learning so you can review your mistakes and learn how to correct them. Not all of us have memories like Sheldon....

Lots of great information on this site (and others) to help you improve. Keep at it.

sirrichardburton

I think if you win taking any advise given it will be a very hollow victory. You would be better off buying a chess book or using the resources here to become a better player. This way you can beat him fairly on a regular basis.

landwehr

absolutely noone is invincible, especially your brother...beat him once and he will probably never play you another game

Iknowthemoves

You have already lost the game by asking for advise.He is better than you at chess..accept it and take up politics..anyone can do that!

landwehr

you will have your victory if you dont throw in the towel !

checklate1
Iknowthemoves wrote:

You have already lost the game by asking for advise.He is better than you at chess..accept it and take up politics..anyone can do that!

It's been established that he is better than I, as he damn well should be.  He was the president of the chess club in college - I picked up chess 3 months ago, so naturally he would be superior.  On the other hand, he's accecpted that I kick his butt in tennis - I played division I tennis in college, so naturally that's the case.  Although, I do let him win sometimes.  If I smashed him everytime he wouldnt want to play & If I want to spend time with my brother - which is more important than the score, thats what i have to do. 

Concidentially, coaching is allowed during a tennis match.

This is simply an innocent game between two competitive brothers, nothing  more.  

checklate1
Here's an update to the game:  I played Nxg6.. thought he would trade q's but he's played h5 instead.   My thought would be Ne5 to put pressure on the bishop.  Would that be wise?
 
 
SmyslovFan

One key difference between coaching in tennis and coaching in chess while the game is going on is that you still have to run to the right spot and hit the ball. In chess, if you are told the right move, it's as if the coach has actually hit the ball for you.

But I never knew that coaching during a point was allowed in tennis anyway.

waffllemaster
checklate1 wrote:
Here's an update to the game:  I played Nxg6.. thought he would trade q's but he's played h5 instead.   My thought would be Ne5 to put pressure on the bishop.  Would that be wise?

Are you seriously going to have us play the rest of the game for you?  If your brother lost that game would it matter to you?  You would have stopped playing it half way through.

Honestly in the first 3 pages I think people were making a mountain out of a mole hill.  Who cares if some kid wants us to feed him a move and some thoughts.  But now it's move after move?  Why not just let your brother know you don't want to play anymore?

Eviator

How about a compromise. Let's give the player and the helpers on this site a pass on this one under one condition: the player has to tell his brother that he sought advice. If he's not willing to do that, then he cannot claim any kind of innocence, nor can the helpers.

As for the game in question, here's some general advice: don't blunder pieces away.

PIRATCH
2200ismygoal wrote:

play nxg6 than attempt to trade off queens don`t play qxq because he can first play nxe7+

Why trading of queens if you're worse? You should keep as many pieces as possible! White is clearly better in this position.

But I strongly advise the OP to study chess instead of asking for help in a game between brothers! Wink

You'll learn more by studying than by advices here. You cannot get advices in tournaments either. So you really should learn to play your games and your style. Cool

Mainline_Novelty

Black has an extra exchange...

2200ismygoal
PIRATCH wrote:
2200ismygoal wrote:

play nxg6 than attempt to trade off queens don`t play qxq because he can first play nxe7+

Why trading of queens if you're worse? You should keep as many pieces as possible! White is clearly better in this position.

But I strongly advise the OP to study chess instead of asking for help in a game between brothers! 

You'll learn more by studying than by advices here. You cannot get advices in tournaments either. So you really should learn to play your games and your style. 

actually white is worse

jesterville

The point is...he is willing to cheat to win...clearly a fan of Lance Dopestrong Laughing.

Seriously...that game could be playing on chess.com right now for all we know...and since the OP has shown his true colours (a dishonest individual)...there is no reason to believe his storey.

I say off with his head.

PIRATCH
Mainline_Novelty wrote:

Black has an extra exchange...

Are you kidding? What about this e-pawn? Black will have trouble to defend. You have at least to block this pawn on e7 best with your knight. And then perhaps try to regroup - doubling rooks on the d-file.

This takes time while White can create new threats ... Cool 

kiwi-inactive
Rsava wrote:

You do realize that in ANY game of chess you are not supposed to ask for or give advice.

Yes, I am fully aware of the rules for CC chess. Those rules also state that you are not supposed to ask for or give advice. PERIOD.

Again, if you don't want to follow the rules of a game, don't play.

Boom! 

checklate1

Eviator wrote:

"How about a compromise. Let's give the player and the helpers on this site a pass on this one under one condition: the player has to tell his brother that he sought advice. If he's not willing to do that, then he cannot claim any kind of innocence, nor can the helpers.

As for the game in question, here's some general advice: don't blunder pieces away."

How about this: i will tell him when the game is over - regardless if he wins or loses, that he was beat or lost to me & the posters on this thread? (I can imagine the look on his face if he still wins, lol)

If we want to get into semantics, he did say he "can't be beaten", but he didn't specify how.

Thanks again!

AndyClifton

Wow, this is a stupid stupid thread.  And I can't help but wonder:  if the OP really wants to win this game, why doesn't he just plug it into Fritz or Houdini or something?

Of course, then he wouldn't actually be the one winning this game...which is another problem (but one which apparently doesn't concern him much).

Meanwhile, the winds of disputation continue to howl on for page after page: